So long as there is no flagrant trolling/shitposting(which will NOT be tolerated), this thread is open to everyone. IOW, any members are welcome to make new character proposals, and/or vote on the placement of existing characters, at any time.
In an effort to be as neutral and fair as possible, the characters are placed on the Master List based on a majority vote. No exceptions.
In order to avoid confusion/chaos, there should only be a maximum of 10 characters that are being discussed here at any given time. Once a consensus has been reached on the placement of a particular group of characters, they will be added to the Master List, then another 10 characters can be proposed, and so on. Please try to follow this format, as any excessive or out of turn proposals are likely to be ignored.
Notes:
This list is based off of total "power" in all its forms. Individual matchups might mean that someone in a lower tier could beat someone in a higher tier, but we're basing the list on average power levels in a forum setting.
The tiers are defined by who is in them. There will obviously be "low" and "high" characters within a tier, but the idea is to place a character as close to their peers as possible. Put another way, there can be multiple levels within the same tier.
Prep is not considered, nor is the status of a character in their respective universe.
It is always assumed that the characters have access to all of their standard equipment/gear, which can(and should) play a factor in where they are placed on the list.
Definitions:
Please note that these definitions do not exist outside of KMC. They were created for a common forum vocabulary, and to give newer members a sense of the general area where certain characters are placed. Nothing more.
That said, there are not strict definitions for where one tier ends and another begins, but as a general example:
Skyfather Tier: anyone '=/>' King Thor, and '<' average Galactus.
Transcendent(Trans) Tier: anyone '>' Silver Surfer, and '<' King Thor.
Herald Tier: anyone '>' Iron Man, and '=/<' Silver Surfer.
Metahuman(Meta) Tier: anyone '>' Taskmaster, and '=/<' Iron Man.
Street Tier: anyone '=/<' Taskmaster.
Disclaimer:
As mentioned, this was created for a common forum vocabulary, and to give newer members a sense of the general area where certain characters are placed. Nothing more. Forum veterans and avid comic readers will likely disagree with certain placements, and this is expected. A perfect list cannot be made in comics, especially with so many differing opinions.
Agamotto, Ares (classic/DC), Black Witch, Cyttorak, Dormammu, Gaea, Ganthet, Gog (The Kingdom), King Thor (Reigning), Mephisto, Monarch, Mordru, Nabu, Neron, Odin (classic), Rune King Thor, Set, Shazam (Wizard), Starbreaker, Superboy Prime, Superman 1 Million (Kal Kent), Surtur, Trigon, Uatu, Umar, Vishanti, Waverider, Ymir (/w/ CoAW), Zeus
Tier 4 - Transcendent(Trans)
Amazo (/w/ base set of JLA powers only), Appolyon, The Asgardian Destroyer, Blackheart, Blaze, Circe, Count Abyss, Death Urge, Divinity, The Doctor, Doomsday (H/P), Dr. Fate, Dr. Strange (classic), Eclipso, Elders of the Universe (minus Ego), Fernus, Gorr, Gray Man, H'el, Hela, High Evolutionary, Infinity Man, Insane Genis-Vell, Ion II (Kyle Rayner), Jenny Quantum, The Keeper, Magus (original), Mangog, Lord Mar-Vell, Midgard Serpent, Mogo, Mongul I (Pre Crisis), Nightmare, Onimar Synn, Onslaught, Queen of Fables, Resurrection Man 1 Million, Runner (/w/ Space Gem), Lord Satanus, Sentinel (Alan Scott), Sentry (Void/Death), Silver Age Kryptonians/Daxamites, Solusandra, Sphinx, Stayne, Strange Visitor, Sun Eater, Superman (mainstream/Rebirth), Swamp Thing, Takion, Thanos, Tyrant (depowered), Validus
*Simply put, the consensus was to keep Superman from the list for now, because a proper tier was not able to be established. His status can always be revisited at a later date if need be.
High
Batgirl, Blacklash, Bronze Tiger, Bullseye, The Cat, Connor Hawke, Constantine Drakon, Captain America (Ultimate), Daredevil, David Cain, Elektra, Green Arrow, Harley Quinn, Hawkeye, Jack O'Lantern, Katana, Kingpin, Lady Shiva, Mysterio, Nightwing, Ravager, Red Hood, Red Skull, Richard Dragon, Rose Tattoo, Silencer, Talon (Calvin Rose), Snake Eyes, Storm Shadow, Taskmaster, Toad, Union Jack, Ursa Major, Winter Soldier
Middle
Arrowette, Arsenal/Red Arrow, Baron Zemo, Batroc, Batwoman, Black Cat, Black Mask, Black Widow, Blue Beetle (Ted Kord), Catman, Catwoman, Conan, Crossbones, Damian Wayne, Deadshot, Echo, Grifter, Hawkeye (Ultimate), Hush, Imus Champion, Joker, Ka-Zar, Lady Bullseye, Mach IV, Misty Knight, Moon Knight, Nick Fury, Nomad, Peacemaker, Punisher, Ra's Al Ghul, Shado, Turok, Wildcat, Robin
Low
Agent Coulson, Alfred, Amanda Waller, Christine Trelane, Colleen Wing, Jesus (TWD), Kate Bishop, Night Thrasher, Obregon Kaine, Penguin, The Question, Speedy, Two Face, Riddler, Talia, White Tiger
Also carried over the last proposals from the other thread and made the following additions to the list:
**Left the Young Justice roster out of the mix for now.
@Phil:
Annihilus to..mh/hh? Don't know enough about his 'base' state to comment.
Jesse Quick to low herald? Yes.
Obsidian to..hh? Yes.
Lex Luthor in armor to high meta? Yes.
Runner to...hh/trans? HH at most, imo. We've got the Flashes and Zoom at HH. It's a stretch to even put Runner on par with them, let alone beyond them.
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annihilus-->hh is he has the ccr
jesse-->lh
obsidian-->defer
luthor in armor-->i'd have thought lh but hm is fine
runner-->hard to gauge. he was more powerful than the ss, and he did run a train through thanos. his early appearances are pretty impressive as well. not sure if he was retroactively assigned the gem in all his appearances though. with the gem, he was certainly trans imo, and i think that is the version most think of when they think of him. trans for me. /shrug
i think i'd mentioned re hulk to hm meta initially too. he is another one that straddles the bounds imo. he could fit at either level.
C'mon man without space gem as well. Didn't Thanos say the gem didn't make him faster? Not to sure but didn't Runner own SS while not having space gem?
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