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Zapp not Zach. Awsome character.

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Not if Orion uses his head:

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You just got ORA'd trick.

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Originally posted by xmeat
huc could survive the sun and i dare you to prove me wrong.
Plus huc is strong enough to toss supes to the sun as well.
Hucs thunderclaps can cause universal shockwaves.

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Originally posted by 2damnloud
@ people getting PO'd at the THOUGHT of an "evolved Ororo" being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>High Evolutionary.

I don't even know what she would look like or her what her capabilities are. I was just fooling around

Some of you people are SAD with these RANTS.

This is PRECISELY the reason why I didn't want to reveal my "source" for communicating with Claremont.

People just love their hierarchies TOO much.

There should be a case study done on some of the members of this board.

The whininess

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Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
Oh... you're such a damn idiot!
Do you even know who HE is?
No of course not... I'm talking to someone who overpowers xmeat in fanboyism.
So you can spell better than him, you affect Storm worse than he affected Hulk. Storm beating Galactus?
If stupidity was bannable, you would have been gone before your second post.

Many people give Storm her dues... she's powerful, good for her, sexellent.
But what people aren't buying, is her being Phoenix level based on your one stupid feat. The same year that she couldn't stop a hurricane?
I didn't know that Phoenix was downgraded...

Hell, did Phoenix even do anything during the time frame you speak of? Was it even on f*cking panel that this was said?

I find it funny how she can beat Thor, based off of being as powerful as Dark Phoenix. Except, all of Storm's feats happen to be based off of a couple feats, and you ignoring that Thor has pawned the christ out of Phoenix.

Another thing, you ignore every feat of hers, in battle.
Beat by Apoc? Pis.
Beat by Magneto? Pis, etc.
You base this off of some hyperbole, with no substance, or no repition in this feat ever.
That would be like me using Thor controlling a blast that would have destroyed a 5th of the universe, as my main point, against say... Thanos, and no other feats.
The problem with this bullshit logic, is that Thor has never repeated this feat, and he has had trouble absorbing Absorbing Man with his hammer (the same thing applies to Storm).
The other problem would be, me ignoring that Thor extremely powered up, has only managed to stalemate Thanos. And when he was normal, and Thanos was way weaker, he lost to Thanos (same thing applies to Storm).

Storm can control millions of stars, but she can't control a hurricane?
I guess we better erase the hurricane feat (normal-ish feat) from memory, and stick to the bullshit one. Good logic.
We are also ignoring her getting tossed like a ragdoll against Apoc.
But, we use her controlling millions of stars to say she can beat him?


Keep in mind, this is the equivilent of what I hear from you.

This will all fall on deaf ears though, just like everything else anyone has ever said to you.

Oh and, HE wins, and devolves her into a turnip. No bullshit feats in the world will change that.

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Originally posted by Scoobless
You're just jealous of our vastly superior geekness & overall comic book knowledge.

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Scoob -----> <--------leo

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Sentry can beat heralds effortlessly. Stalemating Galactus is no stretch.

I'd put him at AT LEAST Thanos level.

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*StyleTime stands with his eyes closed and arms folded atop a mountain cliff. He feels a dark presence approaching as easily as he would the wind blowing on his skin. With eyes now open, StyleTime peers over the rocky overhang he was training on.*

StyleTime:...

*In a complex pattern of flips and twists, the herald of style leaps from his perch and lands on bouldered terrain before an unknown foe.*

Badabing:

StyleTime: Badabing...

*StyleTime smirks. He knows he is in for a fight. Jumping at the chance to test his abilities, he attempts his best puns he learned from years of training at a 4th grade afterschool program.*

Badabing:

StyleTime:He's......too blissfully unaware.....for my quips to take effect!

Badabing:

*A wave of jocular backlash strikes StyleTime and sends him easily fifty feet backwards. StyleTime rolls to a stop as he was taught by Jessica, his 12 year old mentor. Jumping to his feet, StyleTime scans the area for his worthy foe.*

StyleTime:..Where'd he go?.....Damnit. Badabing must be headed for KMC. I must warn the others.

*Before StyleTime sets off, he notices some strange insignia on the back of his hand. He raises his hand to take a closer look at the marking.*

StyleTime: What the....?

*Closer scrutiny of his hand reveals *

StyleTime: NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

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Originally posted by illadelph12
Didn't Apocalypse forcibly absorb Cyke's optic blasts and empower himself? Why not do that to Havok? Or morph his armor into a conductor/re-director. There's so many options for a technoorganic metamorph it's ridiculous. What he should be able to do and how he's written is the biggest disparity (and disgrace) in comics.

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Originally posted by Hercules
Now your just using logic and common sense to prove your point...

THIS IS KMC!

We don't do that here!

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Fighting evil by moonlight/Winning love by daylight
Never running from a real fight/He's the god-damned Baa~aat-MAN!

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Originally posted by The Prophecy
Good Luck my friend! Chase em' down like a dog chasing an old guy in a wheelchair.

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Originally posted by Redatom65
gather round children, and i'll tell you all a tale. The humble tail, of the beginning of the mongooses. A few months ago, when I was jsut afloating user, Trick and I conversed on a joke about Frank Welker, and during those days, Xmeat ran flamboyantly unmatched. Then came Hercules. A new user, willing to lick poles. Trick and I welcomed him, and it wasn't long to Sym joined us on our hulk hunting quest. I started the trend of making silly banners, and it caught on, until the fateful day, we saw Herc withstanding a whipser from Blackbolt. The brainchild of Grey Fox, Me, and Tricky arrose, and we created the hulkbusters. Unfortinetly Digi locked it, but by this time our folds grew. We had Badabing and Jason now, and it was from my soft meaningless sarcastic pitch to anme ourselves the mongooses, that Herc ran with the idea. Ah yes Herc and I had so much fun with the idea, and soon I'd create this very thread, with the hilarity of the opening post, the very post, that'd allow us to keep this thread open. Our thread was simple, but funny. It wasn't til Herc pitched a sarcastic idea to recruit users, til our braindead freind Trickster invite Kaya and Marea over. and soon Smurf and Martian would join. Guy would follow with his brother as well. Smurf and others would make dumb comments upsetting Bada, Herc, Marea, and Kaya, getting pwned by them, and Trick would upset Marea time and time again, but luckilly, our team bond was strong, and we were able to maintain, and luckilly for faceman, he missed most of the conflict. ladies and gentlemen, I bring you the origin of the mongooses, a simple, but charming rant, from Redatom65

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That was my suggestion.

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Bah , mine pwns yours !

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Originally posted by spetznaz
Thanos would fall.

Why?

Simply, on a macro level the MU=DCU. The two universes are not just analogous when looked at on a holistic manner, but they are actually more than that .....they are totally the same. Not just similar ....the same.

Now, there are some differences here and there, but on a macro level it all nulls out.

Which is why sending one character, no matter how powerful, to another universe (in this case a multiverse .....since the DCU is not just one universe) is an excercise in futility.

True ....Thanos is powerful.
Moreover, the HOTU is omnipotence itself.

But the DCU has a multitude of beings and artifacts as well that are either at omnipotent level (or, as can only happen in comic books, go 'beyond' omnipotence .....and yes, i know that should be illogical but it is not).

One more thing ....that may sound illogical to some but if you use some brain juice on it will make sense: Thanos would survive far longer in the DCU (when attacking it) if he did NOT have the HOTU than if he did!

Yup ....as in, Thanos would last far longer using his own powers that he would if he was tapping into the HOTU.

How?

Well, because the moment he started using the HOTU it would INSTANTLY raise the ante, and due to the stakes involved bring in opponents that are beyond power.

By the time it was over even people like Michael D would seem totally powerless compared to the people that would come to DCU's aid. Thanos (with the HOTU) wouldn't last a minute. And yes, I know very well what the HOTU is.

Think of it this way .....imagine if you take a pistol and go rob a bank. Who will show up?
Simple ....cops with guns.

Now, imagine if you send a message saying that you have a tactical nuke and are camped in the Mohave desert, and that you intend to drive the nuke next week to a major metropolitan area and detonate it (killing millions of people).

Who will respond to your threat?
Well ....let's put it this way ....it will not be cops.
And if your threat is confirmed it will not even be the military.
And if they know the nuke is indeed powerful, and you are in fact in the Mohave desert .....there is a very good chance an executive decision will be made to obliterate your particular locus (in essence, you will be nuked ....better to save a city and nuke a patch of desert).

Sometimes being too powerful can be a weakness in and of itself.

Thanos goes down.


BTW: The result would be the same if Darkseid attacked the MU with the ALE. DS with the ALE would be (again, here comes that word) 'omnipotent.'
BUT, the very fact he is doing what he is doing would bring some players to the game that are just not the type to mess with.


(Oh ....and these people would NOT BE the Living Tribunal and the Spectre .....I am talking types that are beyond those two. And I can easily think of a number off the top of my head).

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Magg at a very great distance. Several lightyears by some accounts.

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Originally posted by carver9
To bad in that same comic superman got cut across the chest,neck, and face by equus. Got a huge chunk slashed out of him and he was to slow to stop some soldiers from getting killed by bullets. Even saying himself that even though he goes faster than the speed of a bullet its not fast enough. And to bad when he fought the wind elemental the wind that it was blowing at him was pushing him backwards, making him lose him momentum (looking at the book while Im typing) and that winds aint nothing compare to what storm could do.To bad when the jla was fighting the red tornadoe clones, the wind that they were creating was knocking superman against things.

Storm can get some wins off of superman. Storm lightning will harm superman. Superman dont do well against lightning and that would be storm trump card. The thing about this fight is that storm just have to be the 1st to attack, if she isnt than she would lose. By the way Avalonofthewind (superman fan), what superman did in those scans dont show anything close to what storm could do. When I see superman do something elemental wise on a planetary level then holla at me. Northstar could have done that feat. Nova could have done that feat sphinx could have done that feat. Almost anyone with sufficient speed and book smarts could have pulled that off.

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Originally posted by spetznaz
[QUOTE=8825660]Originally posted by carver9
I agree with you that superman is strong than a calm hulk but an enraged hulk>>superman strength. Do you know what durability means, Superman aint one punching no hulk.

Hulk has amazing durability, and he does get stronger as he gets angrier. However he also has a fatal flaw ....his abilities are linked to the level of emotional strain he is going through (in his particular case, sheer unabated anger). If Superman gets him before his anger rises to a certain level then the Hulk is out! And with Superman's strength and speed the Hulk would be out very quick. (The Hulk only becomes a problem if one lets him get his angst up, and in a KMC style battle that would never occur)!

Why didnt he one punch despero when despero was owning the jla and jsa by himself. Why didnt he one punch solomon grundy when solomon grundy was taking out the entire jla. Why didnt he one punch wonderwoman when she broke his ribs. Why didnt he one punch doomsday.

For the same reason that the Flash doesn't one-IMP every single villian he faces, and for that matter for the same reason why the Flash's list of villians include people like Gorilla Grodd! In the business of selling comic books you need more than one page showing one panel with the Flash (or Superman, Sentry, etc) killing a being under a second. It is for the same reason why Marvel had the Hulk fighting Wolverine (logically speaking someone like the Hulk wouldn't notice someone like Wolvie).
Now, KMC has a set of rules (read them: most people don't) that set the forum apart from comics. Per the rules all characters are not under PIS/CIS, theyare going all out, and a bunch of other stuff (the rules are actually one of the main things that set KMC apart from other comic-book forums, where it is just a bunch of fanboys taking a popularity poll. On KMC true logic can prevail due to the rules).
Anyways, how would DC/Marvel selling any comics if the month's publication showed the Flash/SilverSurfer one-shotting some poor oaf in one panel?
Easy ...no sales.
Thus you see people like Flash facing off against Gorilla Grodd, and people like the Surfer actually having problems with characters (the SS should have almost no difficulty wuth 90% of the characters he has difficulty with).

Why dont he ever one punch darkseid because they have durability of there own.

Darkseid (without PIS) is almost next to unbeatable. The problem is that most people think DS is just some strong dude who rules over a strange planet and has 'heat vision' coming from his eyes.
The truth is that Darkseid is a god who has a wide variety of powers (ranging from sufficient telepathy to control 3 billion Daxamites ....a Daxamite is the equivalent of a Kryptonian), and has sway over time and space with the omega effect.
To be honest, Superman fighting against dArkseid is pure PIS. Such a fight shouldn't last over half a second.
Thus one-punching Darkseid is not even a factor for consideration.




80% of the people on that list is nigh invulnerable.

That is the thing about invulnerability ....in most cases it is not real invulnerability.
If you are invulnerable then nothing can touch you.
However if you are not .....think of it this way.
If Spiderman was real, you punching him would be useless. He would easily withstand your punch.
But what if Rogue punched him?
Now Rogue?
If you punch her (or if Spiderman did), she would feel nothing (for you) and not as much (for Spiderman).
But what if Colossus punched her?
You see ....it is a rolling scale.
Being nigh invulnerable - especially when facing Superman - needs clarification.
Otherwise one can end up dead!

In the real world .....a Soviet-era T-72 Main Battle Tank is invulnerable. If you are sitting in it and i open fire with M-16s, AK-47s, Rocket propelled grenades, etc etc etc you will be PERFECTLY SAFE.
However, if I get inside an M1A2 tank, and fire a single round from the main gun (which can fire a depleted-uranium shell that has absolutely no explosive but just relies on its great speed, and amazing density, to punch through armor) then you ARE dead.
In the first Gulf War an M1 fired such a round, and it went through TWO Iraqi tanks.

Thus, just because you are 'invulnerable' doesn't make you so.
Oh ....and guess what Superman would be tantamount to ....a FTL speed super-dense Kryptonian travelling straight for Wonderman/Hercules/Hulk!
What do you think would happen when he connects at that speed?


50% of the people on that list have super speed of there own.


Even worse than the 'invulnerability' point.
Super speed is HIGHLY relative.

For instance, you do know that the Hulk has superspeed! Don't you?
He can travel at around 300 mph. That is faster than what QuickSilver was capable of when he first appeared.
To be honest with you, everyone on your list (apart from Hercules) has super speed.

HOWEVER, compared to Superman's speed it is all sloth.

EG: A scooter can travel faster than a human can run. However what is that speed compared to that of a 1987 Honda?
Now, the Honda can go well over a 100MPH, but what is that compared to a 2003 MErcedes SL AMG?
Now the AMG can go at higher speeds and with far greater acceleration, but what is that compared to an Enzo Ferrari?
Alright, the Enzo is in the top-3 tier of the world's fastest cars, but what is that compared to a World War 2 Era Spitfire?
Fine then, the Spitfire can move faster than an Enzo, but what is that compared to a Korean War era F-86 Sabre?

You see .....just because someone has 'superspeed' doesn't mean squat if you are facing someone with VASTLY greater speed than you do.

If your character can move at (say) Mach 1, and you are facing someone who is moving at near light speed, you might as well be stationary!

The team characters may have 'superspeed,' but against Superman it is to no avail.

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Originally posted by batdude123
Let's face facts here, Uni. You have a problem with Superman regarded as the most powerful man on the planet. You're against it with every moral fiber of your being. You're pissed that Superman is above and beyond your view of how he should be represented. So what do you do? You make threads to try to deface his position of power. Constantly harassing and doubting the status quo of how things are in the DC universe, even though it's been like that since forever. As it stands, Superman is the number one hero, yet swallowing that fact is painful for you. You talk about PIS being bullshit, yet it's extremely convenient for you to use against Superman's showings where he looks completely dominant over his "peers" in the league. You realize DC wants him above all the rest, yet you can't come to terms with that fact.

The semantics of it don't make sense to you. You're constantly in search of a top tier character to completely dominate him in a fight. When you recognize that the list of top tiers able to beat Supes for a majority is extremely short, you b*tch about it. You know Black Bolt gets stomped against Superman, yet you continue to press the issue. If the above feat is Black Bolt's best, then why is this even a fight?

The sad thing about all of this? You more than most realize he's above the rest, yet you just can't accept the facts about it.

So, how is this debatable? His speed + strength combo is a mother f*cker for any top tier to deal with. So MANY confused versatility with power, yet only a few understand that they're not the same thing. This happens to be one of the reasons you can't stand Superman being observed as above them all. A lack of versatility doesn't hinder one's power output.

And I still don't think you're getting the fact that Supes has the ability to counteract BB's scream with his own voice.

The only way for Black Bolt to compare is if he's consistently shown to be at the top of the top tier list, or to be above nearly all of them in Marvel.

Superman for the win.

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Originally posted by TricksterPriest


"YOU THINK THIS LETTER ON MY FOREHEAD STANDS FOR FRANCE?!"

France=owned before the battle begins.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
thanos got killed by the ultimate cheapshot hear round the world.... thanos wasnt even engaging him. u bring that up. hahahahhaahah better than fighting superman head on and getting assraped.

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Originally posted by muss
great, before you know it you'll be singing in the rain

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Originally posted by Superboy Prime
What they should do is get rid of his mental blocks. Something like....

"You shall no longer forget your huge-****ing list of powers, Jobber."

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Originally posted by darthgoober
Not really Trick...


Any debate that's actually based on evidence rather than speculation/opinion has a tremendous amount of potential. And saying that DS pre ALE takes 10/10 against Thanos before his death, means that you're ignoring a large part of both characters history.

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Originally posted by Badabing
Listen David_Richards, Bastion or whatever the hell your going by this week. Nobody is believing the blather and flummery that you're spewing. No, just go away.

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Originally posted by illadelph12
Not to mention the fact that she'd have to actually get the lasso around him in order to do so, and Apoc has instant teleportation. Once the battle begins he's teleported somewhere out of Diana's range while growing 100 feet tall and morhphing his arm into a gigantic 35ft diameter photon canon and is blasting at Diana from multiple positions (port and blast is a viable option).

As for cutting Apoc, it's pretty useless. He has full control over his atomic structure. He has, on panel, separated his head from his body and at it fly off independently, and morphed his body around incoming weapons fire and physical attacks (punches, projectiles, etc). Not to mention he has forcefields which he can attack from behind.

Diana's not the only one with options here.

Other than the Medusa head, which is a line of sight attack in itself, most of Diana's arsenal wouldn't effect Apoc. Physical assaults are futile and that's pretty much all she's got.

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Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Ozymandias.

I met a traveller from an antique forum
Who said:—Two vast and rep-less idiots of stone (xmeat&devilgoblin)
Stand in the deserted versus forum. Near them on the threads,
Half sunk, a shatter'd visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip and sneer of cold command (or possibly boredom)
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamp'd with a symbol of banning on these lifeless things,
The hand that mock'd them with a middle finger and the heart that fed on baseless adulation.
"My name is Digimark, mod of mods:
Look on my works, ye posters, and despair at the fanboys!"
Nothing beside remains: round the decay of threads gone bad
Of that colossal wreck that is the VG versus forum, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away, with no hope of half assed opinions ending.


I admit I didn't do much, but what do you think?

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Originally posted by quanchi112
i could care less what u say. ever. i argue about what i wish. if u dont like it dont follow me around. simple.

yuga would prolly lose to thanos. hes not a chump like ds.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
thanos could kill yuga khan. thanos with ig would curbstomp the spectre. i mean it wouldnt even be close. thor with the power gem could beat the legion. he was a maniac.

hulk wasnt born and bred to kill darkseid as orion has. orion seems like he is getting worse at it as well.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Uhm Thanos would for sure. Marvel's God needed him. Thanos's will is stronger than Lucy's.

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Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos has become god how many times now. His will can match up against any being.

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Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
By trying to become God.
The moment Lucifer was offered to become God, he turned it down. It's not a comparison by any means.

Plus, what the hell does will have to do with him gaining unlimited power? The only time that's even relevant is when he got the HOTU.
And Thanos apparently has a stronger will than God... wow... that's just f*cking dumb. I'd retract that statement if I were you... but...

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Originally posted by quanchi112
When did I say his will was stronger than Marvel's god. I guess you misinterpreted what I said. The fact remains though that god needed Thanos to save the universe.

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Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
And that statement pretty much makes me ignore anything you ever have to say about DC again...
Thanks.

Will:
Marvel God=>Thanos>DC's God

Such is the logic of Quan, and so it was told.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos will has been proven to have no equal in marvel with beings on panel. Lucy hasnt been shown to have a greater will than all dc characters. He is from Vertigo and has little to do with the dc universe.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Read the story and then you would realize god did need Thanos. I mean he did fix the flaw didnt he. If god could have done it why didnt he?

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Originally posted by King Kandy
I love how you almost never actually use evidence. I think i've seen you actually argue your case around three times, the other times you just call people fanboys and use board consensus as evidence.

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Originally posted by Creshosk
Uses board consensus as evidence? Trickster? Are we talking about the same guy here?

Or are you just throwing whatever you can at him without thinking?

Either way, reported.

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Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I think it's time to use my new spite thread quote.

LORD, PALMERSTON! *KOs Charlgemagne*

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Originally posted by Philosophía
Trick is not 'holding onto that', he's actually right, him and Nvr were always right. As Final Crisis demonstrated, Darkseid's full form hasn't actually been seen in the main DCU, but once it manifested, even while dying, it dragged the whole Multiverse with him twoards his 'grave', the Black Hole at the base of creation. Even in his condition, in order to beat him, they needed Batman to shoot him with a Radion bullet that, as described by Grant Morrison, slays ideas, for the Flashes to bring the Black Racer to him by going beyond lightspeed and entering inside Darkseid's singularity, and for Superman to finally finish him off with a last effort using an attack that practically negates Darkseid from the Multiverse, a counter-frequency.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Hush little branny don't say a word, quanny's going to get you a Thanos bird. If that Thanos bird don't sing quanny's gonna get you a Thanos ring.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Shhh branny, I am singing to you. If that Thanos ring don't fit quanny's going to let you have a Thanos shit. Go to sleep my little baby bro.