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Question What's up with Hasufel and Brego?

How come Eomer gave Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli Hasufel and Arod but at Helm's Deep, it was Brego? confused


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good question, i had heard that Two Towers Ext. DVD will explain it but i dont believe that its explanation will match with the literary works. i wish i could remember what i read on it, but luckily we only have to waite a few more days, well about a month!?!?!?!


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I've also heard that the extened dvd is supposed to explain it, but I doubt that it has anything to do with the book.


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i dont think brego was a horse of the rohirrim...remember, when aragorn fell, he did not have a horse, then brego appeared, so i think brego may be a horse of aragorns


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No, Brego is the horse of Theodens son Theodred (the guy who was brought to Meduseld, dying).
When Theodred fell in the Battle of the Fords of Isen, Brego ran away and let nobody touch him until he found Aragorn. (not in the book, the name is also invented for the film - originally, this was the name of a king of Rohan)
Is explained on the TT SEE.

In RoTk he'll have another horse again, Roheryn.


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Thanks for clearin' that up guys...
I just think it's so unfair that Gimli and Legolas had to ride Arod the whole time and Aragorn gets Brego and Roheryn...

Oh and by the way, Aragorn only rode Hasufel in the TT book...


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yeh i knew brego was a king...........i shouldve pieced together that it was a horse of royalty


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Yeah, but still. I would have thought his name would be carried down to a human, but then again they do live in Rohan, home of the Horse-lords... confused


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Thanks for clearin' that up guys...
I just think it's so unfair that Gimli and Legolas had to ride Arod the whole time and Aragorn gets Brego and Roheryn...

Oh and by the way, Aragorn only rode Hasufel in the TT book...

Yes I also think it was unfair that Eomer only gave them two horses while in the book they get three but just take two.
Not only Brego and probably Roheryn, but also Hasufel
By the way, why the hell did they make Hasufel be brown?? In the book Tolkien expressively says that Hasufel is grey and his name also means greycoat...

In TT, yes, but in RoTK he gets Roheryn
In the book no Brego was needed as Aragorn didnt nearly die.


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Well, it's the same with Shadowfax... He was supposed to be gray, hence his name... but in TTT, he was white and didn't have a saddle...
Arod was the only one who wasn't supposed to have a saddle b/c Legolas and Gimli were riding him, not the other way around...


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well it is always easier to do something a certain way in a book than it is to film it in a certain way


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That's true... but how hard is it to get a gray horse in New Zealand?


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the colour should have been no problem
but the saddle thingies pose already bigger problems

A) not every horse likes to be riden bareback
B) not every actor or specific stuntman can ride horses bareback
(since PJ wanted to do as lil as possible with computers I think he might just have made those changes instead of f*cking around with computers)


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Yes, but my point is: Why was Shadowfax bare-backed? 'Cause PJ wanted to add more, or was it because he's supposedly the King of Horses?


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prolly because he was supposed to be the king of horses and cause he wanted to show how good gandalf is in all fields


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I also think so
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True...


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dude shadowfax is gray the only white horses that exsist are albino with all pink skin around the muzle and if u look at shadowfax in the movie his skin is black so he is grey its hard to explain but belive me he is grey not white, sorry back to subject

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Not really grey,
And for example the mane is a bit yellowish (at least at one of the Shadowfaxes).

Just look at Lipizzans (dunno what theyre called in English), the adults are quite white while the young are black/grey/dark brown.


But shadowfax is rather white then grey.


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Shadowskill
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I agree... if he was grey, why was he as blinding white as Gandalf in the Battle at Helm's Deep?


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