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Miffed U.S and UK spying on the united nations

Holy crap


Katharine Gun, 29, from Cheltenham, claimed the e-mail was from US spies asking British officers to tap phones of nations voting on war against Iraq.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3485072.stm


This is totally wrong we should not be spying on friendly allies mad


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Why not? We've been doing it for the last 100 years. Basic rule of intelligence is to never not spy just because the nation is allied.

Intelligence work is a dirty business.


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"She walked free on Wednesday when the prosecution offered no evidence."

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quote:
Originally posted by Ushgarak

Intelligence work is a dirty business.
yes

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Yup., because juries never do their damn job and just concentrate on the facts.

Truth is she is as guilty as hell and regardless of motive she SHOULD be jailed for it.


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well i would spy on my allies

remember some people keep their enemies closer than they do their friends smile....Mr burns for example laughing but seriously i think its a smart move


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Absolutely. Everyone spies on everyone- it is what diplomacy is all about.


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funny, reminds me of someone who found relaystations from the former Sovjet Union that were used to get secrets from here to Moscow
first thing our minister said was "we definitly have to find out what on earth they wanted from us cause we have no clue what so ever"

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lol!


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Ok fair enough but it is till against the law


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its only illegal if you get caught

which if your spying you try not to do


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quote:
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Ok fair enough but it is till against the law


Only by the laws of the country being spied on. Apply that logic and we could not spy on enemies either!


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Spies kick ass!!!


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everyone spies on everyone, well maybe not those tiny countries in asia but everyone else does......
let's face it, it is the information age, info = power


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I would have actually been suprised if they hadn't spied on them.


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gosh i must be living in some fantasy world where everyone is pure and innocent smile .

I guess me becoming a lawyer doesn't help


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"One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half.-----Sir Winston Churchill

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I doubt anyone spies on san marino or lichtenstein wink

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i have always wondered is there a such thing as spies..i mean i know there are spies but are there like James Bond type spies or i dont know what im talking about. Im very interested in this spy stuff if anyone has any info on it please put it in this thread..also how does someone become a spy in the us? CIA?


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Whats the suprise? Nothing new and not the worst thing US Government does.


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