Sooperhotshiz
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Tribunal vs Thanos(w/ gaunt) vs Beyonder
Who do you think would win? Please know who each of them are for less ignorant answers.
Sep 26th, 2004 01:17 AM
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manes marvel hiarchy (very acurate) puts tribunal 1 above IG, so i think it would win
1. The Heart Of The Universe
2. Living Tribunal
3. Infinity Gauntlet
4. Death
5. The Infinites
6. Eternity/Infinity/Galactus (full power)
7. Oblivion
8. The Celestials
9. Franklin Richards (full power)
10. Master Order/Lord Chaos
11. Chronos
12. X-Man (full power)/Onslaught (full power)
13. Love/Hate
14. Eon
15. Epoch
16. Chton
17. Stranger/In-Betweener/Oshtur/Agamotto/Hoggoth/Galactus (normal power)/Dark Phoenix
18. Ego the Living Planet
19. Dark Gods/Elder Gods
20. Eternals
21. Korvak
22. Shaper of Worlds
23. Beyonder
24. Phoenix Force
25. Hyperstorm
26. Dormammu/Shuma Goroth/Franklin Richards (normal power)/X-Man (normal power)
27. Demogorge the God Eater
28. Set/Cyttarok/Atum the God Eater/Demiurge/Gaea
29. Pheonix
30. Molecule Man
31. Odin/Zeus/Zuras/Shaman
32. Asgardian Destroyer
33. Pantheon of Gods
34. Kubik
35. Mephisto
36. King Thor/Thanos/Hulk (full power)
37. Beta Ray Bill/Adam Warlock/Silver Surfer/Morg
38. Thor/Drax/Gladiator/Terrax the Tamer
39. Captain Universe/Quasar/Gabriel the Airwalker
40. Dr. Strange
41. Genis-Vell/Blackheart/Loki
42. Vision (full power)/Ghost Rider (full power)
43. Super Skrull/Annahilus/Blaastar/Black Bolt/Firelord/Apocalypse
44. Atleza/Holocaust/Nova/Nimrod/Ultron/Mandarin/Cable (without virus)/Abomination/Champion (on earth)
45. Magneto (full power)
46. Juggernaut/Hulk (normal power)
47. Magneto (normal power)
48. Professor Xavier
49. Jean Grey
50. Cable (with virus)
51. Namor (in water)/The Thing/Colossus/Iron Man/Wonder Man/She-Hulk/Doctor Doom
52. Scarlet Witch/Warbird/Rogue/Emma Frost/Psylocke/Namor (out of water)/War Machine
53. Vision (normal power)/Ghost Rider/Vengeance/Spider-Man/Venom/Deadpool
54. Captain America/Wolverine/Sabretooth/T'Challa/Daredevil
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Sep 26th, 2004 01:28 AM
Sooperhotshiz
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Reminder to those:
Beyonder not only destroyed Death, he also brought Death back.
Beginners luck?
Sep 26th, 2004 01:36 AM
crazyspinz
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prolly
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Sep 26th, 2004 01:40 AM
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I don't get that. If Living Tribunal was above the Infinity Gauntlet, why did Thanos conquer every being in the univese with it?
Sep 26th, 2004 03:20 AM
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quote: Originally posted by wrathofachilles
I don't get that. If Living Tribunal was above the Infinity Gauntlet, why did Thanos conquer every being in the univese with it?
Living Tribunal -IS- above the gauntlet. i can get you a copy of the infinity gauntlet saga, but its gonna cost ya it will be in a book like format. but anyway........... thanos with the gauntlet defeated galactus and peers, then replaced eternity. thats as high up as he got on the heirarchy of the marvel universe. later LT snapped his fingers and rendered the gauntlet useless.
Sep 26th, 2004 10:49 AM
wrathofachilles
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So why the hell didn't he do that in the first place? lol. I actually have a few issues of the saga, the one where Thanos kills Mephisto, but I didn't catch the end.
Sep 27th, 2004 02:23 AM
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He only will act when the whole multiverse is threatened.
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Sep 27th, 2004 02:25 AM
wrathofachilles
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Ah I see. Lazy bastard, lol. Any recent issues where the Tribunal shows up?
Sep 27th, 2004 02:30 AM
wrathofachilles
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Oh, and why is Dormammu above Mephisto? Isn't Dormammu a demon and Mephisto lord of the demons?
Sep 27th, 2004 02:31 AM
Sooperhotshiz
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The list up there is clearly flawed and Ive seen many other like it but in a different order.
Sep 27th, 2004 02:36 PM
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Dormammu isn't a demon, he is an actual being that uses the appearance of a demon like figure to amplify his magics.
Sep 27th, 2004 02:54 PM
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quote: Originally posted by wrathofachilles
So why the hell didn't he do that in the first place? lol. I actually have a few issues of the saga, the one where Thanos kills Mephisto, but I didn't catch the end.
Because change throughout the universe is inevitable. The Watchers took no place in the battle because they knew that regardless of who Thanos killed.....the universe would go on.
It was Thanos' ambition to kill 1/2 the life forms in the universe....not destroy the universe entirely.
In the grander scheme of things, Thanos having the guantlet wasn't enough to justify Tribunal's mediation. The Tribunal will only act if the entire universe (or multiverse) is jeopardy...or if he himself is in jeopardy.
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Sep 27th, 2004 03:07 PM
wrathofachilles
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quote: Originally posted by Maestro
Dormammu isn't a demon, he is an actual being that uses the appearance of a demon like figure to amplify his magics.
Yeah, I researched his bio and found that out. I still think Mephisto is above him, but of course the hierarchy is subjective.
Sep 27th, 2004 03:19 PM
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Here's my list from sometime ago, not as long as Mane's but would probably answer your questions Sooperhotshiz.
1. TOAA
2. The Heart Of The Universe/Pre-Reconned Beyonder
3. Living Tribunal
4. The Infinity Gauntlet
5. Death/Eternity/Infinity/Full Potential Galactus (as Third Essential Of Universe)
6. Oblivion
7. Celestials/Franklin Richards (full potential)
8. Master Order/Lord Chaos
9. Chronos
10. Love/Hate
11. Galactus (normal)/Stranger/Eon/Hoggoth/Oshtur/Agamotto/In-Betweener
12. Molecule Man
13. Shaper of Worlds/Beyonder/Kubik
14. Phoenix Force
15. Dormammu/Shuma Gorath
16. Demogorge The God Eater (Atum the Sun after consuming elder god)
17. Chthon/Set/Atum (the Sun God)/Demiurge/Gaea
18. Tyrant
19. Cyttarok/Odin/Zeus/Zuras/All Skyfathers/Destroyer Armor/Shaman X-Man
20. Mephisto
21. King Thor/Thanos
22. Captain Universe
23. Silver Surfer/Morg/Thor/Gladiator/X-Man (normal)/Genis-Vell/Loki/Beta Ray Bill/Terrax/Black Heart
24. Super Skrull/Annahilus/Blaastar/Black Bolt/Fire Lord
25. Magneto/Apocalypse/Exodus/Holocaust/Ultron/Nimrod/Mandarin
26. Juggernaut/Hulk
27. Dr.Doom/Iron Man/Wonder Man/Namor/Thing
And your fight should list whether it's Pre-Reconned Beyonder or not; it's essential if you want to compare powers.
1] Pre-Reconned Beyonder
2] LT
3] Thanos w/ IG
otherwise
1] LT
2] Thanos w/ IG
3] Post-Reconned Beyonder
Sep 27th, 2004 07:42 PM
crazyspinz
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quote: Originally posted by wrathofachilles
Oh, and why is Dormammu above Mephisto? Isn't Dormammu a demon and Mephisto lord of the demons?
dormammu is actualy very simmilar to mephisto, they each have there own dimension and are way more powerfull in it. but some how spidey manage to beat him.....
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Sep 27th, 2004 08:58 PM
Maestro
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dormammu is strong outside his dimension, in contrary to mephisto.
Sep 27th, 2004 09:08 PM
crazyspinz
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but he is way stronger in his dimension
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Sep 27th, 2004 09:10 PM
Maestro
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most probably, but im saying dormammu maintains most of his strength when he leaves his dimension, but mephisto doesn't becasuse his power sources derives from his dimension.
Sep 27th, 2004 09:13 PM
crazyspinz
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agreed
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Sep 27th, 2004 09:15 PM
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