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Pre DCnU: Lobo vs Wonder Women

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They already met in WW v2 60. Lobo slapped her away and then got incapacitated by her lasso. This could go either way if lobo avoids the lasso. Strength wise lobo has a small edge or equal, durability is even, speed goes to diana, HF goes to lobo.


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Unless Wondy can match Lobo's trillion ton crushing force, or hip tossing stellar mass. Than Lobo holds a significant advantage over Diana.


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Unless Wondy can match Lobo's trillion ton crushing force, or hip tossing stellar mass. Than Lobo holds a significant advantage over Diana.

First was a crossover and second goes to space cheese. By the same token unless lobo has done something like slowing down spectre who weighted infinite, diana holds a significant advantage. By comparisons lobo isn't much stronger than diana if stronger at all.


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Wonder Woman. She tough enough to take hits from Lobo to use her wits, speed and lasso to win over him.


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Originally posted by abhilegend
First was a crossover

Canonical, as the events where recalled by Lobo on 52.

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and second goes to space cheese. By the same token unless lobo has done something like slowing down spectre who weighted infinite, diana holds a significant advantage. By comparisons lobo isn't much stronger than diana if stronger at all.

>dumbs down the feat by labling as space cheese.
>uses space cheese to claim a superior feat.
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>dumbs down the feat by labling as space cheese.
>uses space cheese to claim a superior feat.
>durbating. (please log in to view the image)
He's saying space cheese doesn't prove anything by providing a space cheese feat that is superior and also baffling in its idiocy (slowing down infinity).

So it's not hypocrisy as much as it is him telling you that your argumentation is dumb.


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He's saying space cheese doesn't prove anything by providing a space cheese feat that is superior and also baffling in its idiocy (slowing down infinity).

So it's not hypocrisy as much as it is him telling you that your argumentation is dumb.

Who gives a shit. Lobo slaming Pulsar Stargrave isn't a spacecheese feat to begin with.


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To be fair, tossing around Pulsar Stargrave really isn't space cheese in the sense that moving Spectre's 'infinite' weight is. The former is [a lot] more quantifiable than the latter.


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To be fair, tossing around Pulsar Stargrave really isn't space cheese in the sense that moving Spectre's 'infinite' weight is. The former is [a lot] more quantifiable than the latter.


Than you factor in, that scene took place in the middle of a fight where Pulsar happened to weigh stellar mass. It does not fall under the premise of Space Cheese.

The labeling of space cheese, are reserved for scenes that take place over a static object or event. Like planet moving, sun ripping, or in this case Spectre lifting.


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To be fair, tossing around Pulsar Stargrave really isn't space cheese in the sense that moving Spectre's 'infinite' weight is. The former is [a lot] more quantifiable than the latter.
Why would it being more quantifiable not make it space cheese? Is moving Earth or containing supernovas not a space cheese feat because it's quantifiable?
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Than you factor in, that scene took place in the middle of a fight where Pulsar happened to weigh stellar mass. It does not fall under the premise of Space Cheese.

The labeling of space cheese, are reserved for scenes that take place over a static object or event. Like planet moving, sun ripping, or in this case Spectre lifting.
Wait...what?

Lots of space cheese takes place in middle of fights. It doesn't change the fact that they are.

The circumstances in which they happen are irrelevant. He could have done it sitting on his toilet, dragging stellar mass is a space cheese.

What matters is that most of the 'feats' involving planets, suns, blackholes and more being moved/destroyed etc. and the like are there just as 'fireworks' - they don't really mean much in as far as actual fighting goes, eventough by all rights they should - simply because that's how comics work.


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Why would it being more quantifiable not make it space cheese? Is moving Earth or containing supernovas not a space cheese feat because it's quantifiable?
Moving stellar mass isn't on the same level of stupidity as moving infinite mass. Call the former space cheese if you'd like, but comparing it to the latter isn't the best analogy.


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Why would it being more quantifiable not make it space cheese? Is moving Earth or containing supernovas not a space cheese feat because it's quantifiable?
Wait...what?

Lots of space cheese takes place in middle of fights. It doesn't change the fact that they are.

The circumstances in which they happen are irrelevant. He could have done it sitting on his toilet, dragging stellar mass is a space cheese.

What matters is that most of the 'feats' involving planets, suns, blackholes and more being moved/destroyed etc. and the like are there just as 'fireworks' - they don't really mean much in as far as actual fighting goes, eventough by all rights they should - simply because that's how comics work.


Thats fantastic. I can dismiss the upper highs of Wonder Woman, or Supermans feats simply because the bulk of them are space cheese.


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Moving stellar mass isn't on the same level of stupidity as moving infinite mass. Call the former space cheese if you'd like, but comparing it to the latter isn't the best analogy.
What you call 'higher level of stupidity' I call 'also stupid, but a bigger feat'. They're both stupid. Lobo's feat was called stupid in the same page it was done. That's the point of cosmic feats - they're stupid when elaborated on what they mean, and are there only for the cool factor. The fact that you want one to be considered valid and the other one to be considered stupid is because you're biased towards Lobo - let's not pretend there's anything else to it.

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Thats fantastic. I can dismiss the upper highs of Wonder Woman, or Supermans feats simply because the bulk of them are space cheese.
Go right ahead.

When you see me countering 'Thor has beaten Worthy Thing and Hulk' with 'Superman has lifted infinite weight', you're free to do so.

But, you know, don't imply others are hypocrites.


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What you call 'higher level of stupidity' I call 'also stupid, but a bigger feat'. They're both stupid. Lobo's feat was called stupid in the same page it was done. That's the point of cosmic feats - they're stupid when elaborated on what they mean, and are there only for the cool factor. The fact that you want one to be considered valid and the other one to be considered stupid is because you're biased towards Lobo - let's not pretend there's anything else to it.
Please don't put words in my mouth.

I never said one of those feats was more vaild than the other. Not once. I said that while both of the feats were stupid, throwing the stellar mass of Pulsar was less stupid/space-cheesy then slowing down Spectre's 'infinite mass'. Suggesting otherwise shows me your bias toward Dianna... And despite what you suggested, I've yet to use that feat on behalf of Lobo. Why would I? It lends nothing to this particular battle.

Anyway, to be even clearer:
Lifting stellar mass is dumb. Lifting infinity is dumber. Stellar mass can actually be quantified. Infinity cannot.

No need to make this more than it is. smile


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Phil is such an abhi fanboy.

Lobo wins.


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I blame Superman.

...And abhil's anus.


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