Hey I was just wondering if anybody new the details of which villains will be in the Spider-man 2 movie. I heard from a friend that Hobgoblin will be in it. I heard from another friend Harry turns into the 2nd Green Goblin. I've been hearing online that the Lizard and Mysterio may be in it. I'm just wondering if anyone knows for sure who exactly is gonna be in it besides Doc Ock? I hope there's more than just Doc Ock I think the Spider-Man movies from now on should feature more than one villain to make it more interesting.
There are meant to cameos from several villains... connors, felicia (not really a villain I know, but she's bad to start), brock and of course harry but i presume this will be much like the first film (both connors and brock are mentioned though don't feature and there is the cameo of stromm working for norman)... but the only villain per say that I know of is Ock... there is of course strong hints of harry's mental downfall and the strong possibility that goblin over tones will shadow this...
Batmans movies have proven that having two villains dilutes the story.
There is too much to explain because each Spidey villain is incredibly in touch with Spiderman and the chemistry needs to be sorted out. Two villains dilutes the plot.
After all, these are Spidey villains we are talking about. Most of his enemies you could easily base TWO FILMS on.
For the sake of good story-telling and preparation for Spidey 3, it is good that they bring in Brock and Conners.
I predict Dock Ock is the ONLY villain.
I predict Harry starts to turn to the dark side.
I predict Conners is nothing more than Conners, this film simply establishes his character and his mentor-student relationship with Parker. The audience gets to know him.
I predict The Lizard will be in Spidey 3. It could even have a brief glimpse of what is to come with the ending being with Conners giving a talk on cell-regeneration as Peter does his inevitable ending monologue.
I predict Brock gets involved in trying to expose Conners "to make good" and plays a big part in Spidey 3, with Spidey again foiling the self-centred Brock. Brock hates Parker and Spiderman by the end of 3.
I predict if there is a Spidey 4 - it's gonna be Venom. Brock is already established as a major character - only a brief intro of the symbiote is needed.
I predict that through Spidey 2 - 4, JJ gets increasingly irate with Spidey. He could get kidnapped by Venom or The Lizard in either movie, and at the end blame Spidey for all he's done. During Spidey 2-4 he.....
.....will explain his hate for masked "villains". If there is a 5, I'm gonna be damn sure it could be The Scorpion after JJ finally loses it with Spiderman and creates him.
The only oddball is Harry and what he could become. He being the Green Goblin would suck imo, I'm already sick of movie Goblin, we all want to see the others. Maybe Raimi thinks so too and instead of him being GG, he becomes the Hobgoblin, and then fanboys complain about Raimi taking liberties with the comic so the movie wouldnt suck.
Very similar to what I had in mind actually superfly... they need to get the human counter parts in and then use them later as villains. Don't over crowd and just let the stories tell themselves really.
Superfly I love your ideas, but I would have Spidey get the symbiote suit in part 3 and have Spidey not only fight the lizard but have to stop the symbiote from taking over him. Then in part 4 you don't have to explain, what it is, where it's from, & why it hates spider-man.
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Sam has said on many occasions that there will only be one villan per movie. He feels that all of Spider-Man's villans are so deep and the stories behind them are so great that it would cheapen them to try and jam more than one into each movie. I agree, I would rather see a well explained, well rounded villan in one movie than two weak quickly done ones.
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Lets just hope the penny starts to drop with everyone else.
ONE ENEMY PER FILM YAY!
Also, isn't JJ's son in this new one? That has me pointing to Venom certainly somehwhere down the line, seeing as he could be on a mission that brings Venom back down to Earth, in say 3, Spidey wears it fighting The Lizard, has trouble removing it, and then Brock ends up with it at the end. Thing is - will it be an alien? Could be some sort of experiment gone wrong or something - but I think JJ's son will be involved somehow.
Yeah Superman5452 that's what I had in mind. A black symbiote spidey fighting The Lizard. AWESOME!
I can imagine black Spidey flipping out after The Lizard beats him senseless - and Spidey almost kills Conners - only to realise he almost killed his friend and mentor and realises theres something drastically wrong - and that the symbiote needs to be removed. That would make the whole "Oh my God I almost mudered my best friend - what am i doing?" thing that bit more personal.
Last edited by Red Superfly on Apr 27th, 2004 at 12:33 PM
ok does any1 think kingpin will play ne signifigant part in any of the 1 villain movies and will he be th same king pin as the 1 in daredevil played by actor michael clarke duncan if im correct maybe daredevil may make a small cameo appearenc like he has in th comics or in the cartoons. Maybe im jus wishful thinkin but i think that could be good.
How would Peter think this if the Goblin is changed at all? If he is alterred in any way - then Peter will be like "Hang on this must be a different guy".
I don't really mind actually - but i think we need a few more villains in between the Goblins so it seems like there's more to Spiderman than the bloody Green Goblin (and get to show of Spidermans awesome array of villains - all ten times better than Harrys lame Green Goblin, with no powers and is weaker than the original - this is why the Hobgoblin would solve a lot of this mess).
Maybe when Harry goes mental he decides to modify the suit a little - but like I said they have the problem with Peter having a good idea it's an "imposter" Goblin.
The guy who plays him is a great actor and he could do it a million times better then you or anyone else! how dare you! you should be ashamed of yourself! also in your earlier post you were talking about Daredevil, this is NOT a Daredevil forum, as you said to me once "what does that have to do with the thread?"
dude James Franco is a suck-ass actor, bro...there is plenty who could do it better, seeing as how Harry Osborn is an easier role for casting than, lets say, Peter Parker or Norman Osborn
lots of people can play Harry Osborn but not many can play Peter or Norman
Bro? I'm a girl! why does everybody automatically assume that I'm a guy!? it's my name isn't it!? James Franco is a great actor, maybe if you guys open your eyes when you watch his films you'll realise it.
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