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KharmaDog
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How have the Liberals taken away your rights and freedoms?

I dedicate this thread to the people who continually derail other threads by going on about how liberals have taken away the rights and freedoms of Americans.

I look forward to actual examples and I hope this thread helps to maintain continuity in other threads as this topic can solely be debated here.


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I don't think liberals have taken away ANY rights and freedoms.

I do, however, as a result of tensions between BOTH parties, seen an increased in tacky displays from entertainment "icons," through concert performances, TV shows, and overall public appearances.

That is extremely tacky, not to mention embarrassing if only they'd sit back and examine what they look like.


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Never heard of the Patriot actß.......no wait that werte the conservative, but still.......


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i cant wait to read the answers to your question KD!


HA!!!!! yeah right.

you will get no answers because there are none. this thread will sink like a stone in a pond, but at the same time, ignorant fools will still go on to throw in ridiculous statements like "you liberals are taking away our freedom" in other threads.

the reason why it wont be answered? they are cowards and dont want people to know how ignorant they really are. so instead they will go on spewing the same lie over and over and hope that a single regurgitated line will eventually be seen as the truth...which is a strangely familiar tactic isnt it? *cough*dubya*cough*

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I stepped in front of a bus and the driver--a LIBERAL--ran into me. I loss the use of my legs that day.

Oh, wait...


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Firearms.


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Originally posted by Gryn Jabar
Firearms.


Please elaborate.


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I like my fire arms... Lets all be peacefull and take them away just like in Europe..NOT

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What the hell was that? Anyway, restricting legislation regarding firearms.


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What the hell was that? Anyway, restricting legislation regarding firearms.


But the question was how have liberals taken away the rights and freedoms of Americans. Restictions on guns shouldn't count because they have not taken away your right to own a gun.

I was expecting so much more, from the way that Big Evil talked, I thought that the Liberals had taken away all of your rights in the United States.


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I'm not American, but off the top of my head:
Assualt Weapons Ban: Restricts my right to own an assualt weapon.
DC Gun Banning: Restricts my right to own a gun.
Hate Speech Legislation (in Canada): Let me say whatever the **** I want.
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/c-46/41491.html


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I've read that they would like to do away with the people choice to have fire arms but now you have to regester, though that may be a good idea, power always gets abused and it could be a step to banning them only to the people THEY see fit...Now if I have to regester it makes it much harder for me to get away with murdering them that way...I'll have to think of something else...Hmmmm. A wood grinder might be good.

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For one thing, there's a common misconception about rights, people think they're absolute. WRONG. You only have freedom and rights until you infringe upon the freedom and rights of another person.

And the 2nd Amendment doesn't mean that every person has the right to own a gun, it means that each state has the right to have a militia.


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Originally posted by Gryn Jabar
I'm not American, but off the top of my head:
Assualt Weapons Ban: Restricts my right to own an assualt weapon.
DC Gun Banning: Restricts my right to own a gun.
Hate Speech Legislation (in Canada): Let me say whatever the **** I want.
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/c-46/41491.html


So basically you are upset that liberals have hurt North America by trying to restrict weapons whose sole purpose is to kill others, and to try and stop others spewing hateful rhetoric?


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The militia is a good thing..

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Wonder where big evil is? I am sure he has some input on this subject.


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Wonder where big evil is? I am sure he has some input on this subject.


You may be waiting a while, Kharma m'dear.

I simply love though, how people try and say liberals are trying to take away rights and freedoms. They must just so conveniently forget who it is that made the Patriot act, ban same-sex marriage, abortion, etc....


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Lets all be peacefull and take them away just like in Europe..NOT
hmm I have an assault weapon at home, nobody took it away. You are allowed to have weapon in Europe you just have to have them registered

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So basically you are upset that liberals have hurt North America by trying to restrict weapons whose sole purpose is to kill others.


No protect ourselves.The criminals won't be turning in theirs.

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Just because some people don't agree with the right to own guns or hate speech, doesn't mean that by taking them away you aren't taking away freedoms the country previously had. Whether that's a good thing or not is a matter of opinion, but that it's taking away rights is a matter of fact.

Realistically, you can't have absolute freedom. There have to be some restrictions on what you can and can't do. I'm for reasonable gun laws but banning everyone from gun ownership is over the top. I'm not quite sure what qualifies as hate speech, if it's just threats and stuff like that then it has to be illegal. But if it's not threats just hateful words towards a race/religion/whatever then it shouldn't be illegal, people do have the right to be racist if they want to.

Overall I think people look at everything like a liberal vs conservative issue way too much. I don't like to affiliate myself with either group because frankly they are both annoying as hell.

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