Registered: Feb 2005
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I don't think she can take Yoda AND Sidious at the same time, so I think that's where she stops. Otherwise, she should have little difficulty tossing everyone else around like rag dolls.
Registered: Feb 2005
Location: Hiding from zombies
It can be argued that she wasn't truly good or evil, but she -did- embrace the Dark Side and took the sith title at the endgame of KOTOR II, effectively making a choice for evil.
She took it because no other would take it. Atris was in Kreia's eyes, Darth Traya. But when the Exile beat Atris, she said herself that she had to take the title, because there always be a Darth Traya.
Plus in the cut content, Atris become Darth Traya if you are a female. Kreia only takes the title if she needs to.
A bit like Revan's choice to become the Dark Lord.
1) She takes the trio with her immense Force powers. Personally, I'd rank her below Obi-Wan and Anakin in saber ability, but she is superior to all three in Force powers, by far. Traya wins.
2) Though General Grievous is stronger and faster, he - again - can't use the Force and expect to survive someone as powerful as Traya. Traya wins.
3) A Grievous moment. Maul is quicker, stronger, and the better duelist, but would be annihilated through the Force. Traya wins.
4) Mace Windu is like Maul and Grievous before him. He is superior to her, by far, in saber ability, but we've seen nothing that can allow him to defend himself from Traya's Force powers. Traya wins, though this fight would be harder than the others.
5) Count Dooku is with Mace Windu. He also has the advantage of some pretty potent Force powers himself, but is outclassed and dies when Traya uses the Force. He would be a hard opponent.
6) Traya here takes on the two most powerful Force users of their era. She eclipses both of them in ability in the Force, but she is inferior in saber ability - and I doubt she can survive the onslaught that both of them present. Even if she kills one, the other would quickly take her out. Traya loses.
Registered: Feb 2005
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I'd really really like to see evidence that points to Kreia's lightsaber abilities, especially the part where she sucks worse than Obi-Wan, despite knowing extensive information on all the forms and being an ancient jedi master turned Sith.
That'd probably be the in-game experience clouding my vision. I was well prepared and defeated Kreia with ease. I was Dark Side. Perhaps that is what caused me to believe it...
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If you don't level her up she's easier. It's based on her current level with some Sith Master levels added.
First time I played through I was a Guardian/Weapons Master and I did okay. Second time through I was a Sith Lord and I beat the shit out of her with Force powers and mad modifiers to Wisdom and Charisma.
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Did you dod the same thing as me the first time? Force Crush, Force Crush, Force Crush... she couldn't act at all. Then when she activated the sabers I made one saber fight against her and fryed the other ones and Traya with Storm. It was beautiful.
Registered: Feb 2005
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She's a woman, so she will have less natural strength.
This has little to do with lightsaber fighting, Glentract. Palpatine was an old man. Yoda was a midget. Both contended rather well in lightsaber combat. True swordfighting is about SPEED.
She uses her off-hand.
Actually, she doesn't. It's her left hand she loses.
When was it shown that she knew all the lightsaber forms?
Not that she knew them all, but she has knowledge OF them. She basically instructs the Exile on the lightsaber forms if you ask, citing their strengths and weakness from a position of obvious familiarity.
Nov 17th, 2005 03:59 PM
http://darthglentract.tripod.com/index.html Go Jawa's!!
