Depends. If it is in the DC Universe, Flash easily, even Quicksilver coming into it with his power. Flash has the Speed Force which governs the entire DC Universes. Quicksilver just has genetic reasons for his speed, not actual Force or Power from the Universe.
If it is in Marvel Universe, Quicksilver wins because without the Speedforce, which is in DC Uni, Flash is basically a normal human.
If it is equal, meaning Flash can use the power, Flash still wins by a long shot.
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The SILVER SURFER, I'd say. I hear he goes many times the speed of light, and the Flash doesn't go quite that fast, they just use their speeds differently.
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flash would smoke quicksilver like some shit, but silver surfer can fly much faster than wally can run. (I think?) Imagine if superman had the speedforce so he could use his fullspeed in an atmosphere(the speedforce protects you from the friction and keeps you from getting burnt up). It wouldn't make supes much faster, but he would be able to use that lightspeed of his on Earth, instead of being about twice as fast as quicksilver on Earth cuz of that dam atmosphere. Superman would be unstoppable if he could use his fullspeed on Earth without getting burnt up.
nah as strong as he may be, he still would get burnt up. He can't move lightspeed on earth.. no one could ouutside the speed force. While in an atmosphere, it would be like getting hit with millions of godblasts every second if you were to move lightspeed without the speedforce. Its all those little air molecules hitting you like every second. you would go 299,792,458 miles in that one second. So while goin that speed, you have a number of molecules hitting you superfast that can't even be counted. It's well past a googleplex i would imagine
Hrmm...is it possible for Flash to run in the air if he is going really fast? Sort of like a ground would be created below him because of the speed. Also do we know how fast the speed force goes up to?
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Dunno why QS was brought into this but Flash is still fast in the Marvel universe, faster still than QS.
wow, air molecules? The only reason Supes doesn't travel near the speed of light on earth is because he don't want to damage the environment. Imagine flying through Metropolis at 180,000mp/s, total destruction.
no.
The speed force goes up to no speed. Flash is able to travel at many times the speed of light using the Speed Force. It also allows him to Time Travel which is why Wally wins tbh.
Last edited by Magee on Jan 19th, 2006 at 03:02 AM
Reason is because when you go at fast speeds, it creates a force around you. That is why I am asking, "Is it possible for him to run in air since there will be a force on the bottom if his feet.
[wow, air molecules? The only reason Supes doesn't travel near the speed of light on earth is because he don't want to damage the environment. Imagine flying through Metropolis at 180,000mp/s, total destruction. Origanally posted by Magee]
Dude the friction from these air molecules is enough to burn up rocks the size of texas in seconds, and they are not traveling anywhere near the speed of light. Even someone like galactus would be burnt up traveling the speed of light in an atmosphere like Earth's. Flash can do it because the speed force protects you from the friction. And the speed of light is way faster than 180,000 miles per second. It is 299,792,458 miles per second. And yes once you reach mach 7 you are no longer running but flying. So wally could definatelly fly.
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Oh, ok where to start. I don't understand the bit about Texas and rocks moving at light speed so i'll skip that. Galactus? Why bring him into this lol thats a bit weird. And I understand what ur saying about the friction and "burning up" but do not forget that Supes has a protective force field around his body which grants him his invulnerability. You're explanation about the air molecules bit was rather...
I'm saying some meteors start out the size of texas(ok maby not but maby the size of rhode island lol) and reach the ground either the size of a pebble, or no longer existant. And they are NOT moving anywhere near lightspeed. I heard superman, even with his aura, just couldn't do it. And he would be able to keep it under his control. With his reaction timing, he could move lightspeed for like a millionth of a second so he only was right behind someone instantly(so he wouldn't be doing crazy damage to a city, so if he could do it he prolly would vbut I have never seen him even try to do it outside of space) and all that jazz but I just don't think he can do it. Maby he can but I doubt it.
Ah thanks Superman, that is exactly what I was thinking. Time to do research on Mach 7 principles
Also, does this mean that he no longer is able to run on the ground? Wouldn't the force automatically levitate him because of the force building around the body? Or is his body relatively in a normal state (like just standing around) because to begin with, he already has a force field while running, therefore within the field, no forces affect him.
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Well the speed creates some kind of lift or something.. uhm he's got the speedforce he can do whatever he wants i guess lol i dunno I'm not a flash genius or anything
SUperman's durable to the point where air friction of any amount really won't phase him. It's more about his surroundings. The massive amount of force that his running would generate would blow up cities that he passed through. People would explode, buildings would collapse, and when he stopped, he'd send a wave of destruction out in front of him. It's not that he can't go faster in the atmosphere, but the consequences of doing so would be pretty bad.
Anyhoo, back to Surfer vs. Flash. Which has been done many many times... Surfer starts out way the heck faster than Wally. Flash has to accelerate, hit lightspeed, and enter the Speedforce. It wouldn't take a "long" time, but it would take about the same amount of time for Surfer to get thousands of miles worth of a head start. Barring time travel (which both can do) Surfer should win anything that isn't something crazy like crossing a thousand galaxies. Flash should eventually catch up, but it would take a very long time. Respect Silver Surfer.
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Notice he does that in the time it takes for Thanos to throw a single punch... Notice how Thanos reacts fast enough to pull his hand out of the way, and notice the utter badassery of Cap just standing there an inch and a quarter of a second from being vaporized.
Respect Surfer. Respect Cap. But most of all... Respect Thanos's backhand.
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Wtf. M8 you just seem to spew forth complete and utter bs. No meteors around the size of Texas have ever fallen through the Earths atmosphere (in recent yrs). If this happened we would not be here rite now, as it would not burn up any significant amount while crashing through the atmosphere, seeing as they travel around 300,000mph.
Trust me Superman could fly hella fast on Earth (maybe not lightspeed, but close), he just choses not to because as I said before it would wreak havoc on his surroundings.
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Jan 19th, 2006 01:51 AM
no. 
