First of all, initial reactions to this? I was so horrified I found it very difficult to believe that it happened. A 12-week old baby? I couldn't see it as even possible...
The worst thing is, French is due to serve only 5 years in a young offender's institute because, basically, she was 'led astray'. I'm sorry, but partaking in petty crime, smoking underage, stealing your parents' alcohol and topping it up with water, these things can be considered a part of someone being led astray. But this woman isn't a child and as far as I am concerned it takes a lot more than a 'please, it'll be fun' from a boyfriend to make someone participate in such a hideous act.
What do you think? I'm not even going to ask if you think the sentences are too light. Of course they are.
How is rape applicable to a baby of 12 weeks? Just curious there, considering rape has to be going against the resistance and lack of consent (which their was, because the baby can't speak).
Still, 5 years seems pretty low of a time in jail for such a drastic crime. I'd have thought they'd have flipped and ordered a life sentence.
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That's fricken' unbelievable and horrifying!
I can't believe that they let the woman off so lightly. I know that there are many people who oppose the death penalty, and I often have conflicting views on the subject. But I can honeslty say I would shed not a tear to see these two people wiped off the face of the earth.
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I wouldn't either, I agree. I won't be the one to do it, nor should anyone else be (not saying you suggested otherwise, just making my own point there randomly). I'd say the same of rapists in general though.
I'm just curious as to how the legally defined it as rape and if the baby is dead or not.
Gender: Unspecified Location: With Cinderella and the 9 Dwarves
Well I guess after all the damage done (assuming the baby didn't die) is not that big. Of coursee it is a sick idea to mopst of us..but as crime itself it's not in the highest category at all.
I am sickened beyond belief that these things happen...it's easy to stick my head in the sand and pretend it doesn't happen, but some miscreants in the world deserve to suffer, and in this case, I hope the bastard gets his just desserts from other inmates in prison.
Gender: Male Location: between apathy and indifference
I think the victimization of young kids is particullarily deplorable. I don't know why, I just do. Maybe it's because I take care of my twin neices often and the emotional/protective side of me just gets worked up when such a case is publicised.
But the fact is this guy victimised this child and others. And I put rape right up there with many of the worst crimes, raping a child just shows what sick b*stards this guy and his girlfriend really were.
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yeah, but there will always be a case which could be an exception.
as for me, i would rather this guy go to prison and live out his life looking forward to showertime fun and donkey punches, and for that lady to become intimate daily with a gang of broomstick wielding shebitch thugs. the death penalty is not only primative and evil imho...but far too kind.
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I agree... I'd love to see these people suffer for the rest of their lives.
AC, the baby isn't dead. There was a picture in the paper today of her and her mother, faces blurred. The mother's taken it really hard and there's going to be an appeal against the sentences.
Gender: Unspecified Location: With Cinderella and the 9 Dwarves
Yeah I see that, but that'S what I meant, people get more emotional when kids are involved. But fact is that this Baby probably has every chance to live a decent live (If it's still alive...why the **** is that shit not mentioned in that damn article).
I agree that this is a crime that shouldn't be punishe with less than 20 years (and safety custody if there's no chance for rehabilitation). But The crime as such is probably not as final as murder or rape of a teen.
but she's a woman, so she must just be an innocent victim of circumstance. poor girl was abused as a child and never recieved proper love and attention...yadda yadda yadda. witness the true danger of sexism
PVS and KharmaDog for example, are saying they don't CARE if that shit happens to these people, which is fine. They're not lowering themselves to like minded level by wishing it upon them or saying they'd "love to see" them tortured.
The second you admit that you would like to see someone tortured, you are as bad, at least mentally, as those people.
Gender: Unspecified Location: Lost in a Roman Wilderness of Pain
That is the sickest thing I've read this year.
I doubt the baby's dead since the article said the mother was unaware of the abuse until the detectives showed up at her home.
And if the baby would've 'mysteriously' died during the babysitter's care they would've performed an autopsy and detain the babysitters, right?
That's what I think anyway.
*edit: I just saw Syren's post.
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