Dagan got beat by Cal + Bode Akuna yeah but through a lot of luck. Cal conjured a force illusion which made him appear as Santari Chri, Dagan’s former friend and love interest. Overall he was clearly superior to both Cal and Bose.
Btw where would you place Kenobi? (Ps. Tbh I’d rank Cere below Ahsoka)
My list would be something like this:
1) Kenobi/Vos
2)Ahsoka
3)Baylan
4)Cere
5)Dagan
Quinlan Vos - Did better 1v1 against Dooku than Obi-Wan ever could. Would love to see him throw down with Vader.
Obi Wan Kenobi - Was consistently pressuring 10ABY Vader in sabers, but was clearly below Vader in a contest of pure Force power until after the amp.
Cere Junda - Was clearly below Vader in both sabers and Force, but could hold her own long enough to get an environmental advantage and briefly get an upper hand.
Baylan Skoll - In both of their duels, Baylan seemed to be consistently overpowering Ahsoka, though she did get a couple good hits in. Overall, I consider the two very close to equal, but if I had to choose, Baylan gets an edge.
Ahsoka Tano - Between Obi-Wan, Cere, and Ahsoka, Lady Tano clearly performed the worst against Vader. Sure, she was up against 15ABY Vader instead of 10ABY, so he was also stronger. But there's very little to indicate how much more powerful Vader got in that 5 year time period, and his level of performance doesn't seem to have drastically changed. While Obi-Wan could pressure Vader head-to-head, and Cere to genuinely hold her own long enough to gain an environmental advantage, Ahsoka just had nothing really going for her in the Vader fight. She barely nudged him with the Force at the start of their duel, then spent the entire fight getting completely dominated despite her clear mobility advantage. Still a very powerful combatant, just not truly in the same ballpark as Masters like Obi-Wan and Cere.
Dagan Gera - I have him here because I genuinely have no clue where to put this legendary Jedi Knight. His losses were too circumstantial to really definitively put him below the likes of Cal. But I honestly don't even really know where to put Cal. Battle Scars implied that even years after Fallen Order, Cal was still below Trilla's level, and only beat the Second Sister at the end of the game through manipulation, not actual combat skill. It is interesting that Cal and Dagan had a direct Force tug-of-war during their second encounter, and the two appeared even. Dagan Gera is definitely leagues above Cal in terms of actual mastery, and can use illusions to remarkable effect during battle. But I don't know if his impressive Force displays against Cal really put him in the ballpark of all the characters above who could go toe-to-toe with Vader. Maybe he's above Ahsoka and Baylan, but even that feels like it might be pushing it.
Like I said it's a hard list to rank, except I agree Dagan would be at the bottom. Otherwise they're probably all on the same tier.
The only reason I might put Cere at the top is because of her performance against Vader, which timeline wise was around the same time as the Kenobi show. And before the Leia amp (I guess that's what we're calling it lol), Kenobi got crushed pretty solidly and Vader had no mark or injury.
Again though, if it's Peak DD Vos, then he will probably edge this list out.
Yeah Cere vs Vader and Kenobi vs Vader happen in the same year (9 BBY). However it’s implied the Cere fight occurs a few months later, as the game references the Path having its hideout busted by the empire (which happens in episode 3 of the Kenobi show). Yeah Cere did very good although Cere managed to take advantage of the environment.
Even though it seemed like Vader was trolling her/them, he did seem frozen and the novel in between games kept hyping how she almost destroyed him there.
Oh well in the first game Vader easily overpowered her in sabers (literally two shorted) and then she used the force to slow him down, but without a distraction she would have lost then and there. Haven’t read the novel though, that’s interesting, thanks
May 10th, 2024 12:05 PM
