i was reading a review page and it had all the tie ins for such comics as crisis on infinite earths, day of vengeance, and i assure you THEY GOT ALOT OF TIE IN'S what i wish to know if you did or did not by these tie ins would it really make a diffrence in your comic experience.
Tie-ins, I think, work best when they are thought out ahead of time in the writer's mind, then gradually the writer reveals bits and pieces along the way. The fun for the reader is putting the pieces together like a puzzle.
As for after-the-fact retconning and re-interpreting of events: it can still work, and sometimes quite well, but other times the contrivance is painfully obvious.
Overall: I do like them; I like the idea of a single, coherent universe; seems more realistic.
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Personally, i have liked most of the Civil War tie-ins. Some of the good ones were:
1. Civil War: Frontline #1-10
2. Civil War: War Crimes # 1
3. Civil War: Casualties of War
4. Amazing Spiderman Civil War Tie-ins
5. Thunberbolts Civil War Tie-ins
6. The first couple BP Tie-ins were ok, then the last one (# 23) was horrible.
7. Some of the F4 tie-ins were good, some were not so good.
I agree with nimbus the civil war tie-ins were great they gave little bits of bonus info so you could piece together what was going to happen next issue. I also enjoyed the coherent universe were everyone was affected and every comic in the current MU (except nextwave for a while) told that characters civil war story.
IC was good and necessary to have tie-ins. But Marvel has gone a bit overboard with HoM and now CW. No one can follow even half of the tie-ins, and having read ASM tie-ins to CW it's easy to see how much information people are missing out on if they only read CW.
...make the "event" itself a couple issues longer. Then have less tie-ins. That's what I say.
Some tie-ins are necessary, but not as many are necessary that are usually published.
Less tie-ins would probably make readers want to collect the comics even more.
For instance, I used to be interested in the Civil War comics, but now that I stopped collecting the issues, I have no idea whats going on, so I am no longer interested in it.
I say, if they make an ass load of tie-ins, the reader shouldn't be lost if he/she dosen't collect all of those as well.
I like tie-ins, personally. Gives so much more depth to a story. I also don't think Civil War has gone overboard either, but I'd prefer not to read a Hudlin book or Wolverine comic to get the full story.
My biggest problem with tie ins (as i dont have to actually buy them, which would piss me off) is inconsistancies.
Mostly, I'm sure editors or whatever catch these, however, A recent one pissed me right the F off.
In Punisher: War Journal 2 and civil war 6 [SPOILER - highlight to read]: Punisher kills 2 supervillians who were trying to join the resistance movement.
In War Journal, he kills them AFTER cap has shaken their hand, but in CW, he does so before any agreements have been made and while people are still negotiating it.
I honestly don't know which is the best representation of Cap or Punisher, I think for artistic purposes the scene in War Journal is far superior, but is only contained in the tie in.
Other than that stuff, I agree with most of the complaints and comments made about the marketing side, especially the comment about making the real series longer and better, rather than depending on the tie ins to tell the story. That being said, seeing the fallout of the events from the main title tied into current ongoings is very nice.
Tie ins are good because they show the world wide effect of significant storylines ..... they cross a line, though, when you have to get the tie ins in order to follow the story in the main event comic.
I usually don't mind tie-ins, but Day of Vengeance was sort of silly, in as much as it has virtually nothing to do with the event it was allegedly a tie-in for.
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Completely agree with the inconsistencies part. One of the greater ones i can think of is in Amazing Spiderman. In Civil War 5 spiderman gets beaten to a pulp after he leaves Stark Tower, gets rescued by the Punisher, is taken to the resistence secret location and joins the team from there going directly from the secret hideout to Stark tower for the final battle in Civil War 6.
However, in Amazing Spiderman this incident never even occurs, and Peter goes to see Aunt May and MJ first after leaving Stark tower, then meets Cap on a roof top and follows him to join the resistence. Very strange. There are others ones, but this is the biggest one i can think of.
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