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st@rlight
twilight
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Location: Bucharest, Romania |
 Gandalf = A Maia?!?!?!?
i am confused: is gandalf a maia? cause i saw recently the words from the soundtrack: (when he falls in khazad-dum):
Olorin, who once was...
Sent by the Lords of the West
To guard the lands of the East
Wisest of all Maiar
What drove you to leave
That which you loved?
Mithrandir, Mithrandir O Pilgrim Grey
No more will you wander the green fields of this earth
Your journey has ended in darkness.
The bonds are cut, the spirit broken
The Flame of Anor has left this World
A great light, has gone out.
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Oct 11th, 2006 06:49 PM |
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Rogal Dorn
Mahal
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Location: Birmingham, United Kingdom |
Yes Gandalf is a Maia, as are all the Istari (Wizards) there were five that travelled to Middle-earth from the west and their true names in the Quneya Elvish are as follows.
Saurman-Curumo
Gandalf-Olorin
Radagast-Aiwendil
Alatar
Pallando
Alatar and Pallando are two Blue Wizards that travelled East with Saurman but did not return, there is mixed opinion on if they completed their task or not.
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Oct 11th, 2006 07:54 PM |
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Thorin
Escudo de Roble
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Location: Pet Sematary (Venezuela) |
I see you havent read The Silmarillion.
Yes, as thefallen544 said, he is Olorin , a Maia.
And there´s so much more.
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Oct 11th, 2006 09:53 PM |
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st@rlight
twilight
Gender: Male
Location: Bucharest, Romania |
i read silmarillion, but i have never seen these things... maybe there are different editions  . i shall read it again.
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Oct 12th, 2006 11:05 AM |
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Joseph_Kerr
Senior Member
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Location: Wyoming, United States |
Sauron and Balrog are also Maia
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Oct 15th, 2006 12:58 AM |
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st@rlight
twilight
Gender: Male
Location: Bucharest, Romania |
i knew that...
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Oct 15th, 2006 06:42 AM |
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vanice
traceur
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Location: karlstad,sweden |
in the chapter "about the maia" it says that Olorin was of the wisest maia, and that he used to live with the elves and in lorien. and it is clearly stated that gandalf is also called olorin so... all the istari are maia.
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Oct 15th, 2006 01:03 PM |
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thtadthtshldntb
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Location: United States |
Also, for the record, Olorin/Gandalf is one of the Maiar of Manwe, Saruman/Curumo and Sauron are Maiar of Aule.
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Among the tales of sorrow and of ruin that come down to us from the darkness of those days there are yet some in which amid weeping there is joy and under the shadow of death light that endures.
J.R.R. Tolkien, "Of Beren and Luthien" from the Silmarilion
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Oct 17th, 2006 11:43 AM |
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Rogal Dorn
Mahal
Gender: Male
Location: Birmingham, United Kingdom |
Yeah hes a Maia of Manwe/Varda but it seems he was somewhat of a traveller even in Valinor associations can be drawn with a fair few of the Valar although primarily Manwe it seems.
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Oct 17th, 2006 02:52 PM |
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JediMasterLuke5
Superman is a god
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Year he is Maiar or Lower angel. He came as an Old man to middle earth and was 1 of the 5 Istari Wizards. He was given the ring of fire becuz he was thought to be the most powerful.
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Nov 1st, 2006 12:38 AM |
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