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Full Power Cable and Current Ghost Rider vs. Future Sylar and Petrelli

Ghost Rider cannot use PS.

Sylar and Peter Petrelli from Heroes but the episodes when they showed their future version. Who wins? I'm interested.

Sylar : Amazing TK
Mind reading
Immortality
Possibly radioactive cold powers
Incredible healing
Flight
Can phase through walls

Peter Petrelli : Flight
Timestop
Teleportation
Nuclear, radioactive powers
Invisibility
Mind reading
Amazing TK
Fighting abilities and peak human strength


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Hmm...

I have a question (about Sylar).

He gets the powers of the people he kills, but in the future episode he had the powers of D.L. Hawkins (phasing) but D.L. died in the explosion (according to Peter and Nikki).

If that's the case, does Sylar get the powers of superhumans he kills himself or any superhuman that dies while he's alive (because he didn't kill D.L. yet gained his power)?


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And is Sylar a telepath? I know he's telekinetic and has super hearing but in the future Matt (telepath) and The Haitian (telepath/power nullifier) are still alive.


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He just had more powers than the current state. Telepathic abilties and TK he has we don't really know how but he does. He gets his abilities from the headcutting stuff I thing it's something with the braineating if I can call that.


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The Heroes destroy him completely. Then he comes back and they teleport him into the sun.


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I'll reserve judgment until Peter and Sylar like, I don't know, actually do something. sad

Maybe in the finale! smile


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Re: Full Power Cable and Current Ghost Rider vs. Future Sylar and Petrelli

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Originally posted by Rewmac
Ghost Rider cannot use PS.

Sylar and Peter Petrelli from Heroes but the episodes when they showed their future version. Who wins? I'm interested.

Sylar : Amazing TK
Mind reading
Immortality
Possibly radioactive cold powers
Incredible healing
Flight
Can phase through walls

Peter Petrelli : Flight
Timestop
Teleportation
Nuclear, radioactive powers
Invisibility
Mind reading
Amazing TK
Fighting abilities and peak human strength


One. Good luck and I hope this doesn't get closed.

Two. Sylar can't read minds and isn't Immortal. He does also see how things work thou. Thats how he gains abilities.

Three. Peter can copy any ability. You forgot to add that. Also he can see the future vaguely and instantly heal.

Four. Illadelph12 is right about D.L. and good eye man I hadn't even thought about this. This should mean time has changed somehow. Unless Sylar just happen to meet someone with a similar ability.


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True I forgot a couple things. But otherwise yeah Peter can copy any ability I was just mentioning a couple. Suresh states along with Sylar that he can read minds. I hope there will be a big fight in the finale...

Something Cable like stuff like in the Future episode.


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He just had more powers than the current state. Telepathic abilties and TK he has we don't really know how but he does. He gets his abilities from the headcutting stuff I thing it's something with the braineating if I can call that.
Actually I don't recall ever seeing him have any kind of TP. We do know how he gained TK thou. It was the first power the stoled. He found a guy with it that Mohinder's dad was looking for and mashed his head in with a crystal thing. I assume he then used his ability to see how things work to learn how to do it.


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Actually I don't recall ever seeing him have any kind of TP. We do know how he gained TK thou. It was the first power the stoled. He found a guy with it that Mohinder's dad was looking for and mashed his head in with a crystal thing. I assume he then used his ability to see how things work to learn how to do it.
True. I haven't seen him do TP either, but it was stated a several times.


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Re: Re: Full Power Cable and Current Ghost Rider vs. Future Sylar and Petrelli

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One. Good luck and I hope this doesn't get closed.

Two. Sylar can't read minds and isn't Immortal. He does also see how things work thou. Thats how he gains abilities.

Three. Peter can copy any ability. You forgot to add that. Also he can see the future vaguely and instantly heal.

Four. Illadelph12 is right about D.L. and good eye man I hadn't even thought about this. This should mean time has changed somehow. Unless Sylar just happen to meet someone with a similar ability.


Actually at the end of the episode where it shows future Sylar and Peter then Sylar would be immortal.

As for D.L.'s ability...just because they think something happened doesn't mean it did. Just like in the future episode it's Sylar being blamed yet Peter was the actual one that destroyed the city.


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Re: Full Power Cable and Current Ghost Rider vs. Future Sylar and Petrelli

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Ghost Rider cannot use PS.

Sylar and Peter Petrelli from Heroes but the episodes when they showed their future version. Who wins? I'm interested.

Sylar : Amazing TK
Mind reading
Immortality
Possibly radioactive cold powers
Incredible healing
Flight
Can phase through walls

Peter Petrelli : Flight
Timestop
Teleportation
Nuclear, radioactive powers
Invisibility
Mind reading
Amazing TK
Fighting abilities and peak human strength


GR can't use the PS sad


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Actually at the end of the episode where it shows future Sylar and Peter then Sylar would be immortal.

As for D.L.'s ability...just because they think something happened doesn't mean it did. Just like in the future episode it's Sylar being blamed yet Peter was the actual one that destroyed the city.
Where does it say or show he's immortal?
What I was saying about D.L. was how did Sylar pull Peter through the wall if he hadn't gained D.L.'s power. Also if he did gain D.L.'s power how did he do it unless he either was the one that killed him in the first time line or he was able to get it from D.L.'s dead body.

Unless somehow D.L. lives. Thou I can't really see that happening now.


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D.L. was not killed in the bomb explosion in the future Hiro went to. When Future Hiro goes to see Bennett, he mentions that he brought D.L., Candice, and Molly to Bennett for him to hide. Obviously, Sylar found at least D.L. and Candice and killed them.

I don't recall Sylar ever being mentioned as a telepath. It's not possible that he could be since Matt is still alive, and there is never a mention of any other telepath.

As for the battle, I would give it to Cable and Ghost Rider. Cable would mind rape both of them.

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D.L. was not killed in the bomb explosion in the future Hiro went to. When Future Hiro goes to see Bennett, he mentions that he brought D.L., Candice, and Molly to Bennett for him to hide. Obviously, Sylar found at least D.L. and Candice and killed them.

I don't recall Sylar ever being mentioned as a telepath. It's not possible that he could be since Matt is still alive, and there is never a mention of any other telepath.

As for the battle, I would give it to Cable and Ghost Rider. Cable would mind rape both of them.


GR/Cable ftw


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Current Ghost Rider could prolly take them both.


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Where does it say or show he's immortal?
What I was saying about D.L. was how did Sylar pull Peter through the wall if he hadn't gained D.L.'s power. Also if he did gain D.L.'s power how did he do it unless he either was the one that killed him in the first time line or he was able to get it from D.L.'s dead body.

Unless somehow D.L. lives. Thou I can't really see that happening now.
When he's posing as Nathan, gets Claire to him, and then proceeds to cut off her head. That's when it shows he's immortal because he takes her ability.

He also probably found D.L. through Matt since he helped hide him and killed him that way as somebody else already said basically.

Also Sylar has TK but not TP. He can also change his appearance not that it would help him.

Anyways GR/Cable should easily win. What could either do to Ghost Rider but throw him around? As for Cable they don't have defenses against psychic attacks so he could easily win alone with his telepathic abilities. Ghost Rider....well assuming Claire can't heal if she's split in two he may be able to kill them.


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This thread makes me laugh my gosh what a curb-stomp in favour of cable and current ghost rider in fact cable tells ghost rider to sit this one out. Sylars biggest Telekinesis feat is flipping over a truck, then you have full power cables telekinesis feat need i say more? At the start of the fight cable pulls them apart lets see them heal from that.


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let's try to list all of Sylar's current powers .

able to see and instantly be able to fix any problem
Telekinessis
Tempeture control
superhuman memory
superhuman hearing
persuasion (nah, he didn't get that power becaust the chick killed herself to keep Sylar from it)
molecular manipulation
precognition
radation manipulation

in the future he would also have
molecular phasing
flight
healing (self regenerating)
power of illusion
pyrokensis
invisibility

anf if Peter is close to him then he has thoes same abilities

I think between the super memory, mind reading, super problem solving, healing, tk, pyrokensis, phasing, and molecular manupilation they have a good chance .


to survive 5-10 whole minuets. (hell Cable went up aginst Silver Surfer and held his own for a while)


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