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Is Marvel Lame?
I like a lot of Marvel comics on face value, but where are the classics from Marvel, the comics that are groundbreaking?
Have they existed in the last 25 years apart from Marvels?
DC have had Sandman, Hellblazer, Swampthing, Watchman, Kingdom Come etc
DC as Wildstorm has had the Authority.
Marvel has had Marvels.
I ask you are Marvel the Mcdonalds of Comic Companies? Is it always the same everywhere?
Prove me wrong!
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Agreed but that was pre 1980 I have Giant Size Uncanny Xmen 1
I think the Authority got its idea more from JLA or the Original squadron Supreme mini from 82 which was a Marvel and just makes it into the able to be counted section.
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I stopped reading regularly after Claremont left the first time, yes I am that old, I read some of Morrisons when he was on it and it was typical quality Morrison, but it wasn't groundbreaking though.
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CM if you've heard ive been saying something then confront me directly do not resort to immature smilies and snidey comments. I expect better of you.
You said to me that you barely read comics simple as. On many of the threads ive been on with you, you have asked me or others to explain comic events or characters powers which are otherwise common knowledge on theses forums to those who read comic books. Therefore it is understandable that i would question your comic book knowledge because ive seen a lack of it in threads. Theres a difference between common sense and comic book knowledge. To your credit you posess the former in abundance, however from what ive seen you still need to work on the latter.
I have not been talking about you negatively behind your back. As a friend on here i would have hoped you would have thought better of me and taken up the issue with me directly as an adult should. I was PMed by a noob poster who said that me and you seem to be good friends on here and that you seem to be a good debator, so what do i think would be the best way of taking you down. I told them to read a variety of comics and keep on their current events becasue you through your own admission barely read comics. Wheres the malice in that?
This now explains you're snidey comments. I would have expected you of all people to take it up with me like an adult. Im disappointed CM.
You however have brought to my attention that this noob poster has been sh*t stirring as it were. I will rectify that situation by taking it up with them in a manner befitting of the adult i am.
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I'm not really mad, but you just brought it up again. The smilies were a joke, thats all.
You've said it in like 20 threads, now I've asked you questions sure enough, but those were on things that didn't make since to me in a match, or a character I didn't read on, like Phoenix, which I just mentioned in my previous post.
As far as commons sense, I have no problem with that, but its all within the characters abilities, when fanboys bring up stuff like wolverine jumped 30 feet in the air, but they can't explain how, then its bad evidence period.
You did so in the what can wolverine survive thread. We all understood the point, on wolverine's inconsistancies, but you insisted that he was taking damage from harder hitters, than said that was besides the point. You contradicted yourself.
Either that or you go around and say "why do you hate storm" or "why do you hate wolverine".
You did that on 3 threads and walked off, not that it matters.
This is a hypothetical debate, what happens in the comics happens there, but its impartial judgement.
I could make a list 1 mile long about who beat who, but it wouldn't matter, its all intangibles.
Best to stick to fact, and go by whats presented in who will win.
I never said I barely read comics, I said I wasn't a diehard reader, there's a difference my friend.
At the end of the day Marvels character stats by their own admission are far from concrete. That is why a man like wolverine can do what he does in the comics. Or someone like Namor who at the time is stated to be class 85 can lift oil tankers. You can only go by how theyre written in the comics, the bios are just a guide and should be taken as a bare minimum representation of what characters can do. Using a bio and common sense can be sufficient in some cases with some characters however against a cjaracter like wolverine for example who is consistently written beyond what his bio and real world physics says he should be able to do it really doesnt cut it im afraid. That was my point.
Im your friend. When ive said you hate so and so it was clearly in jest it was you who took it to seriously. Even now when that noob asked me for advice which i innocently gave, it was you who leapt for the negative stance on the situation and made it out to be me talking about you behind you're back, belittling you. You over reacted once again CM and instead of addressing me with your issues you got snidey and changed up on me. Thats why i am disappointed. I wouldnt expect that from you.
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My point is that in a debate, inertia and everything else matters.
In a comic, you'll see things to make a match interesting, like bats getting hit by supes, but you know reason within characters, that wouldn't make sense here.
What was in jest, I've seen you just many a time, and that didn't look like jesting. Now what your assumptions were I never would've guessed, but the shit smilies weren't a big deal.
I just explained your fallacy to you, the only part that you seem hung on is that pm, forget the pm, you sound like you were serious about it, or you wouldn't keep bringing it up.
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since 1980 hmmmmm
