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Thanos(with individual Infinity Gems) vs Darkseid

Just to save time I figured I'd combine them all into one thread

Fight 1. Thanos w/Soul Gem vs Pre ALE Darkseid
Fight 2. Thanos w/Mind Gem vs Pre ALE Darkseid
Fight 3. Thanos w/Power Gem vs Pre ALE Darkseid
Fight 4. Thanos w/Time Gem vs Pre ALE Darkseid
Fight 5. Thanos w/Space Gem vs Pre ALE Darkseid
Fight 6. Thanos w/Reality Gem vs Pre ALE Darkseid


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Re: Thanos(with individual Infinity Gems) vs Darkseid

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Just to save time I figured I'd combine them all into one thread

Fight 1. Thanos w/Soul Gem vs Pre ALE Darkseid
Fight 2. Thanos w/Mind Gem vs Pre ALE Darkseid
Fight 3. Thanos w/Power Gem vs Pre ALE Darkseid
Fight 4. Thanos w/Time Gem vs Pre ALE Darkseid
Fight 5. Thanos w/Space Gem vs Pre ALE Darkseid
Fight 6. Thanos w/Reality Gem vs Pre ALE Darkseid
IMO,

DS has the best chances in battles 1, 2, and 5...


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IMO,

DS has the best chances in battles 1, 2, and 5...

What kind of odds do you give him for the fights overall?


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What kind of odds do you give him for the fights overall?
He has the potential to take 2-3/6 fights, imo...


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with each gem thanos is to much.


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Didnīt Adam overpower Quasar with just the Soul Gem?

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Re: Thanos(with individual Infinity Gems) vs Darkseid

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Originally posted by darthgoober
Just to save time I figured I'd combine them all into one thread

Fight 1. Thanos w/Soul Gem vs Pre ALE Darkseid
Fight 2. Thanos w/Mind Gem vs Pre ALE Darkseid
Fight 3. Thanos w/Power Gem vs Pre ALE Darkseid
Fight 4. Thanos w/Time Gem vs Pre ALE Darkseid
Fight 5. Thanos w/Space Gem vs Pre ALE Darkseid
Fight 6. Thanos w/Reality Gem vs Pre ALE Darkseid


Fight One is Tricky. Dont' know how That one would go. DS has power over life and death as well as souls. Could go either way.


fight 2. DS wins. The Mind Gem was unimpressive. Thanos has better Tp feats than Moondragon, a top tier telepath on her own with it, she seemed no more powerful than before.


Fight 3. Thanos wins this one.

Fight 4. Draw. DS has time powers on his own. I dont' see either doing much to the other that cannot be countered. If they are both only using the Time powers. Overal DS is more powerful while Thanos is more resiliant.

Fight 5. The Space Gem isn't going to be impressive in Thanos hands. He isn't the runner and isn't fast. While DS is uber fast when he chooses to be. DS also can TP on his own. DS wins this one.

Fight 6. DS best feats with Reality manip are with the Omega and in GDS. He also seems to be able to kill and then recreate the person he's utterly destroyed. I am not too familiar with Thanos's feats with the reality gem.


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Fight One is Tricky. Dont' know how That one would go. DS has power over life and death as well as souls. Could go either way.


fight 2. DS wins. The Mind Gem was unimpressive. Thanos has better Tp feats than Moondragon, a top tier telepath on her own with it, she seemed no more powerful than before.


Fight 3. Thanos wins this one.

Fight 4. Draw. DS has time powers on his own. I dont' see either doing much to the other that cannot be countered. If they are both only using the Time powers. Overal DS is more powerful while Thanos is more resiliant.

Fight 5. The Space Gem isn't going to be impressive in Thanos hands. He isn't the runner and isn't fast. While DS is uber fast when he chooses to be. DS also can TP on his own. DS wins this one.

Fight 6. DS best feats with Reality manip are with the Omega and in GDS. He also seems to be able to kill and then recreate the person he's utterly destroyed. I am not too familiar with Thanos's feats with the reality gem.
thanos was master over souls. adam warlock defeated mephisto in his own realm with this gem. ds goes down hard. thanos with the time gem could utterly just drag ds around whenever he wanted. mastery over time is a lot more than ds possesses. thanos with the space gem doesnt have to be fact he can mentally teleport and ds wont know what killed him.

thanos with the reality gem would just kill ds as he stood there. sorry but ds goes down hard in each fight as the gems are way to much for anything ds can throw their ways.

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imho chumpsied doesnt win a match


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imho chumpsied doesnt win a match
he really wouldnt win one match. thanos would be way to much for him.

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First off, Darkseid is more powerful than ever here on KMC, it has never been stated that he was more powerful than Thanos, he fought Thanos in Marvel vs DC, this was one of the confrontations that were not polled for votes, and he held his own against him. In my opinion, without the Gems it would be a stalemate, with them Thanos would have a big edge.... espcially since he mastered using them, in his reign as supreme being. Just remember the writers of both companies have agreed that Thanos is Marvels Darkseid, these guys could fight forever and no one would win.


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First off, Darkseid is more powerful than ever here on KMC, it has never been stated that he was more powerful than Thanos, he fought Thanos in Marvel vs DC, this was one of the confrontations that were not polled for votes, and he held his own against him. In my opinion, without the Gems it would be a stalemate, with them Thanos would have a big edge.... espcially since he mastered using them, in his reign as supreme being. Just remember the writers of both companies have agreed that Thanos is Marvels Darkseid, these guys could fight forever and no one would win.

Actually the writer's of both companies have agreed that Thanos is a pale comparison to DS. Fail. Try again. DS was hodling his own against Thor and Silver Surfer, WHile Thanos was getting rocked by CM, and WW and GL.


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Originally posted by CaptainStoic
First off, Darkseid is more powerful than ever here on KMC, it has never been stated that he was more powerful than Thanos, he fought Thanos in Marvel vs DC, this was one of the confrontations that were not polled for votes, and he held his own against him. In my opinion, without the Gems it would be a stalemate, with them Thanos would have a big edge.... espcially since he mastered using them, in his reign as supreme being. Just remember the writers of both companies have agreed that Thanos is Marvels Darkseid, these guys could fight forever and no one would win.
thats becuz the companies wouldnt want the other companies badass to lose. it would if it were written most likely be written into a stalemate. just like dc would never allow superman to look bad against a marvel hero. but here we can decide and here in this thread in particular thanos wins.

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Re: Re: Thanos(with individual Infinity Gems) vs Darkseid

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Fight One is Tricky. Dont' know how That one would go. DS has power over life and death as well as souls. Could go either way.


fight 2. DS wins. The Mind Gem was unimpressive. Thanos has better Tp feats than Moondragon, a top tier telepath on her own with it, she seemed no more powerful than before.


Fight 3. Thanos wins this one.

Fight 4. Draw. DS has time powers on his own. I dont' see either doing much to the other that cannot be countered. If they are both only using the Time powers. Overal DS is more powerful while Thanos is more resiliant.

Fight 5. The Space Gem isn't going to be impressive in Thanos hands. He isn't the runner and isn't fast. While DS is uber fast when he chooses to be. DS also can TP on his own. DS wins this one.

Fight 6. DS best feats with Reality manip are with the Omega and in GDS. He also seems to be able to kill and then recreate the person he's utterly destroyed. I am not too familiar with Thanos's feats with the reality gem.


While I agree with some of your points for some of the Gems there's just a couple of things I'd like to address....

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Fight 4. Draw. DS has time powers on his own. I dont' see either doing much to the other that cannot be countered. If they are both only using the Time powers. Overal DS is more powerful while Thanos is more resiliant.

Wasn't it established in the Great Darkness Saga that Darkseid's powers weaken with age? Think about it, 10,000 years into the future DS was massively weakened from age and had to absorb several outside power sources to match his original level of power, so just imagine how weak he'd be if Thanos aged him a million years the way he did to the Runner.

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Fight 6. DS best feats with Reality manip are with the Omega and in GDS. He also seems to be able to kill and then recreate the person he's utterly destroyed. I am not too familiar with Thanos's feats with the reality gem.

The GDS isn't usable as a feat source for DS's current incarnations due to it being a future version of the character. It may be the same DS, but since he hasn't done it yet we can't credit him with the feats.


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Re: Re: Re: Thanos(with individual Infinity Gems) vs Darkseid

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While I agree with some of your points for some of the Gems there's just a couple of things I'd like to address....


Wasn't it established in the Great Darkness Saga that Darkseid's powers weaken with age? Think about it, 10,000 years into the future DS was massively weakened from age and had to absorb several outside power sources to match his original level of power, so just imagine how weak he'd be if Thanos aged him a million years the way he did to the Runner.


The GDS isn't usable as a feat source for DS's current incarnations due to it being a future version of the character. It may be the same DS, but since he hasn't done it yet we can't credit him with the feats.
I just want to point something out real quick. The Gds Darkseid was probally weakened by some sort of event(most likely he was defeated by Orion). Seid doesn't weaken with age, this has been show many times. As for the his feats being credible to the character, they are like you said, the same character. However they should count, seeing how that version was supposed to be inferior to his 20th century self.

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While I agree with some of your points for some of the Gems there's just a couple of things I'd like to address....


Wasn't it established in the Great Darkness Saga that Darkseid's powers weaken with age? Think about it, 10,000 years into the future DS was massively weakened from age and had to absorb several outside power sources to match his original level of power, so just imagine how weak he'd be if Thanos aged him a million years the way he did to the Runner.


The GDS isn't usable as a feat source for DS's current incarnations due to it being a future version of the character. It may be the same DS, but since he hasn't done it yet we can't credit him with the feats.
ive told starking this for months. good show.


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I just want to point something out real quick. The Gds Darkseid was probally weakened by some sort of event(most likely he was defeated by Orion). Seid doesn't weaken with age, this has been show many times. As for the his feats being credible to the character, they are like you said, the same character. However they should count, seeing how that version was supposed to be inferior to his 20th century self.
until it happens u cant give him a free pass. i mean be realistic. u say most likely he was defated by orion this is just speculation on ur part.

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feats dont stand as they never have and havent occurred yet.

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until it happens u cant give him a free pass. i mean be realistic. u say most likely he was defated by orion this is just speculation on ur part.

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feats dont stand as they never have and havent occurred yet.
Please don't respond to me, when I'm not adressing you. You do this with everyone, yet your the same person who tells people to respect each others opinions. Stop sticking your foot in MY business, it's very annoying.

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Originally posted by starking
I just want to point something out real quick. The Gds Darkseid was probally weakened by some sort of event(most likely he was defeated by Orion). Seid doesn't weaken with age, this has been show many times. As for the his feats being credible to the character, they are like you said, the same character. However they should count, seeing how that version was supposed to be inferior to his 20th century self.

In regards to your theory I'd just like to point out that you yourself said that he was PROBABLY weakened from some event. The thing is that no such event was ever established as having happened in that arc. That means that there's no proof of that.

And as I've pointed out many times at this point, a 16 year old Charles Xavier would be PHYSICALLY superior to an 60 year old Xavier(which is all that was said about the younger DS, that he was PHYSICALLY superior) but that doesn't mean that you credit the 16 year old Xavier with the telepathy feats of the 60 year old. Some things just take time and practice to get good at...


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In regards to your theory I'd just like to point out that you yourself said that he was PROBABLY weakened from some event. The thing is that no such event was ever established as having happened in that arc. That means that there's no proof of that.

And as I've pointed out many times at this point, a 16 year old Charles Xavier would be PHYSICALLY superior to an 60 year old Xavier(which is all that was said about the younger DS, that he was PHYSICALLY superior) but that doesn't mean that you credit the 16 year old Xavier with the telepathy feats of the 60 year old. Some things just take time and practice to get good at...
great points darthgoober but ive spent months giving him different scenarios as to why u cant count a feat until u do it. he just likes darkseid to much and wants to count it. thats the bottom line.

i told him before if i practice hard at benchpressing and in 2 years i press 300lbs i cant count the feat until i do it two years from now. its be like me counting it before i tdid it. it makes no sense. to count it it must have happened. bottom line.

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