So basically our class is having a debate tommorow. We are debating whether there are "democratic" principles in a republic, and if so what kind. So I thought I would start this thread so I can get some ideas flowing, see both sides of the argument so I can choose, because at this point I really don't know what to chose.
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Well the word republic is refering to Democracy, since our goal is to spread Democracy it makes us a republic. That's what I meant.
As for democratic principles I just need examples, if there are any present in a republic.
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That makes no sense.
I recall having a lengthy debate about the terms Republic and Democracy (I was of course right)
A republic doesn't necessarily need to be democratic. They can be and I am sure many are, but a republic can also have phony elections...they basically just need a head of state that's not head by birthright (like in a monarchy). But just theoretically there don't need to be any democratic principles in a republic. Just as much as there can be democratic principles in a monarchy.
if "republic" refers to "democracy" this debate of yours would be the equivalent to arguing over the chemical composition of water.
I agree with Bardock about republics pretty much. It depends on whether or not citizen access to the mechanism of power is a necessary component of a republic. I would say it is, but the democratic principals of that mechanisms could be usurped. Possibly creating a tyrannical republic....
And I said that I didn't say republic is a dictatorship. Well, I said isn't, but it's one of those occasions where a double negative still means a negative.
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Yes, my definition was to simplify matters, it's not quite correct, other factors do need to apply. Like the voted by the populous, for example.
No I did not.
You said "I know it doesn't mean a republic isn't a dictatorship. Why would you tell me that?"
Besides being extremely confusing that means "It does mean a republic is a dictatorship" I actually said quite the opposite. You need to watch your double negatives.
No, it is not, you can't chose whether it is a negative or not, the way you said it here it meant a positive. You are not black either, so be conscious of your grammar.
In fact, all in all, you should work on the way you say things to make them have less than 3 meanings. Also so people can be sure what your point is, that would be common courtesy. So go ahead now, formulate your point in a sensible manner and we can discuss it from there.
In a democracy, at least in the truest sense of the word, the majority rules, without any real regard to the minority. In a republic, the rule of law must take into account the rights of the minority as well. Sort of a no voice unheard thing. But, in America, we have a fusion of principles from a number of governmental models. Here, the majority is often ignored in favor of a minority. Or an over riding principle, like equality. Today in America, however, you have to have the money to back it up, or it's ignored and dismissed. This is what politics in America today are all about.
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