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Soljer
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Lets find discrimination!

You know, for fun.

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It's pretty Fraging disgusting. Let's see.

Lightray, a white male character who nobody uses and who hasn't been seen or heard from in ages, got a huge, six-or-seven panel, impressive fight over the skyline of Metropolis before plunging messily to the ground and imparting some kind of power to Jimmy before dying.

Grayven, a white male bad guy who nobody's heard of and nobody cares about, got an issue devoted to some powerful characters having trouble beating him, followed by a full panel death in which he identified his attacker and made ready to fight before getting blown away.

Black Racer, a black male character who's key to the mythos, got killed off-panel. The first time we see him in this story is as a corpse.

Knockout, a gay female character who's been a major part of several recent storylines and is part of one of exactly two healthy lesbian relationships in the entire DCU, had a HEY LOOK SHE'S A LESBIAN LOOK AT HOW GAY SHE IS scene, followed immediately by her begging for her life while hanging over the edge of a building by her hair and then dying.

Big Barda, a white female character and the only one of the New Gods who has an active series, who is probably the main New God after Darkseid and Scott Free in terms of popularity, recognition, and people who give a shit about her existence, was killed off-panel. In the kitchen. And between panels, in a move that completely preludes any possibility whatsoever of a fight. Scott, her husband, then goes on a four-panel freakout with an entire splash page included about her death. Yes, you read that right: Zero panels devoted to Barda's death, two pages devoted to her husband's reaction to it.

Orion, a white male New God, is still alive, and looks to be one of the heroes of the piece.

Metron, a white male New God, is still alive, and looks to be one of the heroes of the piece.

Scott Free, a white male New God, is still alive, and looks to be one of the heroes of the piece.

Darkseid, a... okay, well, he's grey, but he's a male New God and will be one of the heroes of the piece.

Of these four, only one will survive, but the other three will absolutely be important to the crossover and contribute to the solution, either of the mystery or the murders themselves, before getting kakked.


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"Big Barda, a white female character and the only one of the New Gods who has an active series, who is probably the main New God after Darkseid and Scott Free in terms of popularity, recognition, and people who give a shit about her existence, was killed off-panel."

Lulz. If Barda is tops in New God popularity, no wonder DC wants to kill them.


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"Big Barda, a white female character and the only one of the New Gods who has an active series, who is probably the main New God after Darkseid and Scott Free in terms of popularity, recognition, and people who give a shit about her existence, was killed off-panel."

Lulz. If Barda is tops in New God popularity, no wonder DC wants to kill them.



Barda who? confused






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Bring back Highfather!

Obviously nobody cares about that other guy. The one with the flaming head and the stick. Whatshisname. shifty

Plus, has this guy seen Orion's real face? White he is not. laughing out loud And I'm not talking about the one in DOTNG. I'm talking about the one after he fought DS H2H awhile ago.

I love how Kalibak gets ignored, again. laughing Kalibak: "KALIBAK IS STAR! WHY DOES DC SCREW KALIBAK OVER AGAIN!?"


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grayven isnt white..he's blue/grey like his father


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Thats some funny shit,Black Racer got killed off-panel...I would have never thought of it as racism.

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Black Racer Was taken out first or so it seems becuz he could mess up the plans. obviously showing that he was a real threat. Also, one of the forever people, is black. The other is a woman. They are very important to the story. I see no racism.


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having Barda killed in her kitchen and having her death exist as nothing else but a spur towards her husband's actions is pretty much a text book case of misogyny. And if you disagree or don't recognize that, then it's obvious that you don't entirely understand what the concept means.

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Black Racer Was taken out first or so it seems becuz he could mess up the plans. obviously showing that he was a real threat. Also, one of the forever people, is black. The other is a woman. They are very important to the story. I see no racism.
I have to agree with Nvr. I'm guessing with his ethnicity and preferences that he'd know bias when he saw it.


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I'm pretty sure the killer is either Takion or Highfather.


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Takion was killed last issue...


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Takion was killed last issue...


He could have faked his death


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It is true that his heart was not ripped off in the same way. It would be a good twist, even if the scenes previous to the attack are not consistent at all.


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I been holding judgement on these events. But I'm just going to relase some steam....The entire Death of the New Gods is just a big "whodunnit?" plot from cheesy murder mystery movie. Great way to take some of the most unique and well crafted characters created by Kirby to turn them into a murder mystery victims. Jim Starlin better start coming out with something really good in the next three books. Or Kirby's ghost will haunt him forever.

All we need now is for Granny Goodness to turn into Agatha Kristy and she solves the crime. (sarcasm intented)


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And people get their shorts in a knot when John Stewart becomes the main Green Lantern over Hal Jordan in the JL - both comics & on TV.
We still have a ways to go to have comics reflect multiculturalism in North America & the World. Some of that strain of white/male preferred favouritism still exists in the industry; Starlin is one of many old dogs out there.


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And people get their shorts in a knot when John Stewart becomes the main Green Lantern over Hal Jordan in the JL - both comics & on TV.


Are they bothered because he's black? no.

Jordan is the lantern - it's quite that simple. I'd be equally upset if Gardener was the 'main' lantern in JLA.


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It's not because Jordan is the Lantern. Nobody gets upset when Kyle is chosen for something over Hal. Plus, everybody is always screaming for more Alan exposure.

However, it has nothing to do with race. Rayner himself is half mexican. It's because John just flat out isn't that interesting.


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It's not because Jordan is the Lantern. Nobody gets upset when Kyle is chosen for something over Hal. Plus, everybody is always screaming for more Alan exposure.

However, it has nothing to do with race. Rayner himself is half mexican. It's because John just flat out isn't that interesting.

I like John. He seems very interesting in the new JLA. Which seems to be very multicultural. Or heading that way.


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It's not because Jordan is the Lantern. Nobody gets upset when Kyle is chosen for something over Hal. Plus, everybody is always screaming for more Alan exposure.

However, it has nothing to do with race. Rayner himself is half mexican. It's because John just flat out isn't that interesting.


From a personality standpoint, Jordan is the least interesting one. Just like Barry Allen was much less interesting compared to Wally West. Having a roster too populated by bland white guys from the 1950's gets stagnant. Firestorm is now black, the new Atom is Asian - I wouldn't mind at all if John Stewart was the Number One Lantern.


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