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Superman vs Nova with Full Nova Force


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I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species that I realized you aren't actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with its surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply, and multiply until every natural resource is consumed. And the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague, and we...are the cure.

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Has been done.

Nova has a decent showing, but ultimately loses a majority against Supes.

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Nova's high herald level now, correct? I mean, I don't think it's ever been stated on panel but Annihilus was hella powerful, talking shit to The Mad Titan, treating herald level characters like trash etc. Hell, he even had herald-level concubines lol...I know ABC logic doesn't always work but I see him going 50/50 with Supes right now and possibly winning an overwelming majority with a few more years to master the full nova force...


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I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species that I realized you aren't actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with its surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply, and multiply until every natural resource is consumed. And the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague, and we...are the cure.

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Originally posted by Darth Creasy
Nova's high herald level now, correct? I mean, I don't think it's ever been stated on panel but Annihilus was hella powerful, talking shit to The Mad Titan, treating herald level characters like trash etc. Hell, he even had herald-level concubines lol...I know ABC logic doesn't always work but I see him going 50/50 with Supes right now and possibly winning an overwelming majority with a few more years to master the full nova force...


IMO, Nova with the Full force is below herald level, or perhaps lower herald level. He repeatedly stated during Annihilation how the heralds were the only ones who could match the power of Ravenous, the heralds were the biggest guns in the united front, etc. etc. In Nova 12, he fought a fully mature technarch, with the worldmind stating that even if he had no transmode virus and 100% power output and use of the full force, he still couldn't defeat that 1 full-grown technarch. On the other side of the coin we have heralds nonchalantly destroying entire planets (Terrax, SS)

Annihilus' queens I wouldn't call herald level....Firelord took on a huge, massive fleet with Red Shift and Stardust, stormed the flag ship by himself, overcame all resistance, and still apprehended the queen.

Nova only beat annihilus due to galactus' blast weakening annihilus to a degree, and phyla vel taking the quantum bands for herself. only after those two incidents did Nova defeat annihilus, and nova was *still* getting his ass kicked.

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Nova's high herald level now, correct? I mean, I don't think it's ever been stated on panel but Annihilus was hella powerful, talking shit to The Mad Titan, treating herald level characters like trash etc. Hell, he even had herald-level concubines lol...I know ABC logic doesn't always work but I see him going 50/50 with Supes right now and possibly winning an overwelming majority with a few more years to master the full nova force...
He had to have help and Annil was weakened when he beat him....

Don't remember that?

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IMO, Nova with the Full force is below herald level, or perhaps lower herald level. He repeatedly stated during Annihilation how the heralds were the only ones who could match the power of Ravenous, the heralds were the biggest guns in the united front, etc. etc. In Nova 12, he fought a fully mature technarch, with the worldmind stating that even if he had no transmode virus and 100% power output and use of the full force, he still couldn't defeat that 1 full-grown technarch. On the other side of the coin we have heralds nonchalantly destroying entire planets (Terrax, SS)

Annihilus' queens I wouldn't call herald level....Firelord took on a huge, massive fleet with Red Shift and Stardust, stormed the flag ship by himself, overcame all resistance, and still apprehended the queen.

Nova only beat annihilus due to galactus' blast weakening annihilus to a degree, and phyla vel taking the quantum bands for herself. only after those two incidents did Nova defeat annihilus, and nova was *still* getting his ass kicked.


Haven't had a chance to read the post-Annihilation stuff, so I must concede your points on the Nova Force not being as powerul as I'd previously thought.

Firelord's apprehending of the queen left him comatose if I remember correctly, which implies to me she was hereld level herself. It wouldn't have taken so much outta him to apprehend Spiderman...bad example, but you get my drift.

And while I agree with everything you said in regard to Annihilus power level when Nova defeated him, he still bitched Wendall and TOOK the Quantum Bands for himself. That in itself puts him at high-herald level, IMO. With a few years practice, he'd defeat Supes the majority of the time.


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he never beat him head on.

Annil stole the bands, I am not sure if that was a real victory. But Annil lost to Nova with the bands stolen and weakened by what can assume quite a bit.

So ONLY after that was Nova able to get a win, how the hell does that work out??

Nova loses. Please God. erm

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he never beat him head on.

Annil stole the bands, I am not sure if that was a real victory. But Annil lost to Nova with the bands stolen and weakened by what can assume quite a bit.

So ONLY after that was Nova able to get a win, how the hell does that work out??

Nova loses. Please God. erm


Gotta go back and re-read the books. My memory can't be that bad on the fight.

Also, I'm not sure how the hell you "steal" cosmicly attached bands off someone's wrists. confused Where I'm from, he took em. G'd em actually.


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I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species that I realized you aren't actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with its surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply, and multiply until every natural resource is consumed. And the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague, and we...are the cure.

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annihilus absorbed the qauntum energy from the bands which allowed him to gain the bands


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annihilus absorbed the qauntum energy from the bands which allowed him to gain the bands


Thanks...I didn't really wanna go digging...I think that counts for a high-herald level feat...Supes loses. Please God. erm


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I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species that I realized you aren't actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with its surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply, and multiply until every natural resource is consumed. And the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague, and we...are the cure.

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Let's see how Nova does against the Surfer.

Then I'll answer this thread.


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Thanks...I didn't really wanna go digging...I think that counts for a high-herald level feat...Supes loses. Please God. erm
Fine he done that.

But your still ignoring the fact that Nova couldn't beat him without getting hit by a Galactus blast or something, having the bands stolen and being attacked by the new Quasar, then and only then did he win, and he fell down unconscious. How ****ing stupid are you??

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Nova! he doesn't have the confidence but he easily has the power! plus he has worldmind! plus all supes can do is punch him really hard and maybe give him some heat! as far as i am concerned nova is in a whole nother level! plus he is much much faster! so he got beat of the surfer! supes would get completely destroyed by the surfer!!!!!!!

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Let's see how Nova does against the Surfer.

Then I'll answer this thread.
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i dont see nova taking this somehow.


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i dont see nova taking this somehow.


me neither. He got the power to get a 10/10 from superman in a hard fight but he just isnt experienced enough and thats where superman would gain his victory. Hes young and immature and with that said I give this to superman 7/10.

If nova was a focused character and well developed at his power I would give him a high majority 9/10, to bad he isnt. sad


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now powerful is Nova, potentially?

I wasn't too impressed with his contributions in Annihilation, nor with his recent fight with Surfer, so I'm still wondering at that...


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