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Smile Elimination Chamber

Brian M Bendis
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Geoff Johns
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Kurt Busiek
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Jeph Loeb
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Jim Starlin
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Grant Morrison


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Credit goes 2 starlock

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Re: Elimination Chamber

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Jack Kirby
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Brian M Bendis
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Geoff Johns
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Stan Lee
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Kurt Busiek
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Jeph Loeb
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Jim Starlin
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Grant Morrison


With ''The King'' and ''The Man'' in there, everybody else becomes a non factor.

Donno who'd take it between those two though.

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vote for ur favorite writer


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Out of who's left? I'll go with Busiek. Starlin being a close 2nd.

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Johns, Starlin or Morrison.

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Starlin, obviously.


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Geoff and Morrison. Between them? Morrison IMO. **** everyone who didn't get it or hated it, FC was ****ing genius. big grin Starlin is a joke.


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FC was a trainwreck and is the only reason Morrison doesn't run away with this.

I have a thesaurus and when you look up the word 'fail,' two of the synonyms for it are 'Bendis' and 'Loeb' - so we need not go into why they get raped here.

Busiek writes good shit, but his hero worship for Supes borders on the homoerotic. Even when Busiek's not having Supes do utterly ridiculous things feat wise, the story is always about how awesome Supes is. Back in Action arc springs to mind most immediately. So, he's out.

Starlin also writes good shit. Warlock, Captain Marvel, Infinity Watch, DOTNG and Holy War, etc. All great stuff. Problem is that Starlin has these occasional "WTF?" moments. Like...having Starfire suggest they need "a Superman or the Green Lantern Corps." That, or he downplays the character's abilities in certain arcs that makes them look retarded. Take Thanos during the Infinity Gauntlet saga as the example. Takes on the heroes using the Power Gem, and seems to not only get hurt by Masterson Thor but also gets knocked back by Spiderman. Yet, in the arc immediately preceding IG he's unamped and standing on even footing with Champion w/ PG (who completely wrecked Thor head-to-head.)

So, its WTF moments like this that kinda rule Starlin out.

Johns almost always writes good arcs, but he downplays characters abilities too and I like my guys written pretty overpowered. So...

Morrison...fantastic writer. Guy could be a novelist if he wanted to. Everything he writes is beautiful and I've enjoyed a lot of his work. But FC...jesus. The dialogue was still good. The overall writing was beautiful. But the plot...no. I don't care what anyone says - you don't introduce two ultimate threats in the same arc. You definitely don't do it for the supposed largest threat in the multiverse for half of one issue, and have him defeated in that same issue. You could've made it 12 issues (like COIE was) and the two uber badguy thing still wouldn't have been a good idea. Anyone read Sketch Magazine? One of the advice they give to beginner writers is to make your villains compelling and introduce them in a relevant way. Mandrakk was completely unnecessary for the story. I feel like DC told Morrison they needed something epic, and Morrison tried too hard to deliver. It didn't feel natural. It was overthetop and cliche. And again, FC 7 completely dropped the ball.

That being said...like I mentioned before, the writing itself was still classic Morrison, and I've enjoyed pretty much every other Morrison-written story I've read, so he might be my choice as well to win this.

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Re: Re: Elimination Chamber

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With ''The King'' and ''The Man'' in there, everybody else becomes a non factor.



Don't forget "the Douche", i know who gets that title! big grin


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A couple of years before, Loeb would have won hands down after he written The Long Halloween. Talk about a genius who lost it.


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The man's son DIED. erm After a 3 year battle with Cancer. sad That's enough to break most people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Loeb


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The man's son DIED. erm After a 3 year battle with Cancer. sad That's enough to break most people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Loeb
Not Batman


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Not Batman


Nah. All it took for Batman was....

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Shit. Was Kirby added in there?

Kirby and Lee are the last 2 standing imo. I do like Johns and Busieks work.


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Batman bounced back


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Batman bounced back

Yeah. Like the Octamom's boobs.

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I don't care who wins, so long as Loeb dies a very slow/painful death.

Decapitation with a spoon, perhaps?


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I don't care who wins, so long as Loeb dies a very slow/painful death.

Decapitation with a spoon, perhaps?
A rusty spoon?


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Of course.


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