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Darth Jello
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There's a 68% chance your boss will cheat you this week...

Low-Wage Workers Are Often Cheated, Studies Say


Check out the graph and how many workers aren't even paid the federal minimum wage.


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I could imagine that this "But many small businesses say they are forced to violate wage laws to remain competitive." is sadly probably true. What is incredible to me is that almost 40% of those surveyed are illegal immigrants.


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What's amazing to me is over 60% are not.

I kinda have some experience in this. At my current job, I went behind my bosses back and ratted him out to his accountant. We got our overtime but he was really pissed. He threatened to fire me, then the next day promoted me to office administrator and therefore in charge of fixing all his legal problems. Even with the pay raise there are still no benefits and frankly, it's a murky and hellish existence so I guess he showed me.
Funny thing is that if I followed up on all the rumors I hear about not paying over time or off the clock hours, I'm pretty sure I could blast a lot of foreign owned small businesses out of the water in the local area. In these cases, it's not about staying competitive. They just know how to run rackets better than businesses and they think it's a crime if 70% of revenue doesn't go to the owner's paycheck.


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Is your boss Jewish, Persian or Arabic?


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Originally posted by Darth Jello
What's amazing to me is over 60% are not.

I kinda have some experience in this. At my current job, I went behind my bosses back and ratted him out to his accountant. We got our overtime but he was really pissed. He threatened to fire me, then the next day promoted me to office administrator and therefore in charge of fixing all his legal problems. Even with the pay raise there are still no benefits and frankly, it's a murky and hellish existence so I guess he showed me.
Funny thing is that if I followed up on all the rumors I hear about not paying over time or off the clock hours, I'm pretty sure I could blast a lot of foreign owned small businesses out of the water in the local area. In these cases, it's not about staying competitive. They just know how to run rackets better than businesses and they think it's a crime if 70% of revenue doesn't go to the owner's paycheck.


For some reason, I find this story fascinating.


Did he tell you why he promoted you? (Not the logical reasoning of it, but his reason/s to you.)


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Originally posted by Darth Jello
What's amazing to me is over 60% are not.

I kinda have some experience in this. At my current job, I went behind my bosses back and ratted him out to his accountant. We got our overtime but he was really pissed. He threatened to fire me, then the next day promoted me to office administrator and therefore in charge of fixing all his legal problems. Even with the pay raise there are still no benefits and frankly, it's a murky and hellish existence so I guess he showed me.
Funny thing is that if I followed up on all the rumors I hear about not paying over time or off the clock hours, I'm pretty sure I could blast a lot of foreign owned small businesses out of the water in the local area. In these cases, it's not about staying competitive. They just know how to run rackets better than businesses and they think it's a crime if 70% of revenue doesn't go to the owner's paycheck.


Wow! You work for a sucky place. You should look for a better job.


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Darth Jello
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It's not really a religious thing and I find the Jewish comment personally offensive. Locally it's much more of a Russian thing with everyone trying to get into the non-skilled home care industry and milk medicaid. For the most part, having observed many many businesses rise and fall, it seems like due to a lot of factors, people from Soviet and Soviet Satellite states think that a business and a racket are one and the same. Medicaid caught on and started busting ass left and right. My boss noticed how anal I was and pretty much put me in charge of fixing all the deficiencies and conforming to the law so his business wouldn't be closed and so he wouldn't go to jail. I'm always looking for better work but things are pretty damn barren.


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You're not allowed to be offended by it, sorry, just the way it is. Cossacks, go figure.


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It's not really a religious thing and I find the Jewish comment personally offensive. Locally it's much more of a Russian thing with everyone trying to get into the non-skilled home care industry and milk medicaid. For the most part, having observed many many businesses rise and fall, it seems like due to a lot of factors, people from Soviet and Soviet Satellite states think that a business and a racket are one and the same. Medicaid caught on and started busting ass left and right. My boss noticed how anal I was and pretty much put me in charge of fixing all the deficiencies and conforming to the law so his business wouldn't be closed and so he wouldn't go to jail. I'm always looking for better work but things are pretty damn barren.


That's cool. I had no idea Russia and the illegal mentality of business making was so prevalent in your area of Colorado.

And, yeah, that's good on your bosses part. However, as I'm being told by my professors, the policy makers and auditors are usually quite hated at companies. No one likes them because their job is to tell others what they are doing wrong with their job.


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Originally posted by Darth Jello
It's not really a religious thing and I find the Jewish comment personally offensive. Locally it's much more of a Russian thing with everyone trying to get into the non-skilled home care industry and milk medicaid. For the most part, having observed many many businesses rise and fall, it seems like due to a lot of factors, people from Soviet and Soviet Satellite states think that a business and a racket are one and the same. Medicaid caught on and started busting ass left and right. My boss noticed how anal I was and pretty much put me in charge of fixing all the deficiencies and conforming to the law so his business wouldn't be closed and so he wouldn't go to jail. I'm always looking for better work but things are pretty damn barren.
You a jew?


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the problem also has to do with auditors having a direct financial incentive to find fault. Because health care is not universal and medicaid is underfunded, it's a scarce resource. So auditors in general have kind of a feeling of lawlessness. You could be following the rules to the letter and they will still find you at fault because another business is doing something better. For example, the law requires that every care provider receive 20 hours of training or be able to pass a competency test in homecare. We had 8 hours of training and a 100 question competency test and did not hire anyone who couldn't pass it with a 90% (law says 80%). During a review, we were listed as non-compliant because we did not have 40 hours of training, and a competency test, and a 2 hour course on advance directives/end of life issues for all employees (care workers do not need a lecture on the difference between an attorney at law and an attorney in fact). In other words, based on what 1 agency with 30 employees did, this inspector, who in all other instances did point out problematic things we are fixing, pulled something completely out of his ass that has no legal relevancy and expects an agency with 217 employees to comply by having what amounts to a semester worth of home care and legal course work that no one's ever going to use, including medical information that we legally do not have the right to utilize.

And yes, I be Hebrew. Could you tell?


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I wonder what percentage of those people cheat the government and the people and pay no taxes at all.


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39%?


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I wonder what percentage of those people cheat the government and the people and pay no taxes at all.

You don't need to wonder -- it's somewhere around 40%.


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And yes, I be Hebrew. Could you tell?


No, I never saw your nose....


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Originally posted by Darth Jello
Low-Wage Workers Are Often Cheated, Studies Say


Check out the graph and how many workers aren't even paid the federal minimum wage.


don't know about this since I've had two days off this week


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Re: There's a 68% chance your boss will cheat you this week...

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Low-Wage Workers Are Often Cheated, Studies Say


Check out the graph and how many workers aren't even paid the federal minimum wage.
68% chance my boss cheats me every week


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Originally posted by Bardock42
No, I never saw your nose....


Watch it, *******


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Watch it, *******
Damn censor, now I'm wondering what you called me.


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Damn censor, now I'm wondering what you called me.


I'm guessing it has to do with the ass and its opening. These Jews are quite the vicious lot, no?


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