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Question Wolverine and Sabretooth Vs. Colossus

who wins?

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i slightly give it to wolverine and sab cause they are kick ass fighters and they would wear out colossus. without their healing factor they would be screwed. if colossus fought them one at a time then i would give it to colossus


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wolverine and sabretooth win this, if omega red with his class 10 strength could dent a little bit colossus metal skin with his fingers then sabretooth with his new weapon x strength will be able to penetrate colossus with his adamantium claws all the way in and tear out his heart

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^ Dont forget that when Red was digging his fingers in Colossus, he was also applying the death factor which was severely weakening him.


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^ Dont forget that when Red was digging his fingers in Colossus, he was also applying the death factor which was severely weakening him.


but that was just a guy with class 10 strength and a weakend colossus, now its someone with class 15 strength and adamantium claws vs ordenery colossus, sabretooth will penetrate him without any doubt

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but that was just a guy with class 10 strength and a weakend colossus, now its someone with class 15 strength and adamantium claws vs ordenery colossus, sabretooth will penetrate him without any doubt


You cant compare the two. Different circumstances. When Red did it, Colossus was weakened and his metal for was starting to diminish. That wont be the case in this fight. Is Sabes strong enough to penetrate Colossus's armor? I dont think so.


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what version of sabes is this? didnt the last version of him with adamantium only had it lacing his bones not his joints or his claws?

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Originally posted by blue_beast
wolverine and sabretooth win this, if omega red with his class 10 strength could dent a little bit colossus metal skin with his fingers then sabretooth with his new weapon x strength will be able to penetrate colossus with his adamantium claws all the way in and tear out his heart


There were circumstances for that. He was applying his Life Drain abilities, and was weakening Colossus. Even then, how he was bleeding doesn't make any sense. In his metal form his all metal. He has no tissue, or blood.

It's doubtful that they can do anything to Colossus really outside of a few shallow scratches or sparks

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but that was just a guy with class 10 strength and a weakend colossus, now its someone with class 15 strength and adamantium claws vs ordenery colossus, sabretooth will penetrate him without any doubt


That's incorrect. Sabertooth cutting Colossus is still highly in doubt.


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Yeah, that whole story with Red was extreme PIS. He dug into Colossus(who was bleeding red, his blood is silver in metal form), took all of his hits with no damage, then got ko'd when Nightcrawler dropped him from high up in the air. The same Red who got blasted a couple miles away by Chamber and got up just about as soon as he hit the ground. That whole arc was full of inconsistencies. Colossus can KO both of them, and if not, he can easily BFR either of them.

Actually, Colossus can bleed in his metal form(Cassandra Nova arc when Shaw double chops his head), and while he's not solid metal, all of his organs become metal, and his blood is like mercury/quicksilver.

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You cant compare the two. Different circumstances. When Red did it, Colossus was weakened and his metal for was starting to diminish. That wont be the case in this fight. Is Sabes strong enough to penetrate Colossus's armor? I dont think so.


are you joking? sabretooth at his beat and recent form was able to cut sinister super soldiers like butter and they were very durable, when sabretooth was without any special upgrades he was able to cut elevator doors and robots with his claws, now he is with adamantium and has 15 class super human strength he will penetrate colossus without much problem because those are adamantium claws + 15 ton strength

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but that was just a guy with class 10 strength and a weakend colossus, now its someone with class 15 strength and adamantium claws vs ordenery colossus, sabretooth will penetrate him without any doubt


You can't connect the dots, can you?

Omega Red's death factor is the reason why he was able to do that to Colossus. It makes absolutely no sense at all, but that's how it happened.


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There were circumstances for that. He was applying his Life Drain abilities, and was weakening Colossus. Even then, how he was bleeding doesn't make any sense. In his metal form his all metal. He has no tissue, or blood.

It's doubtful that they can do anything to Colossus really outside of a few shallow scratches or sparks



That's incorrect. Sabertooth cutting Colossus is still highly in doubt.



under all that metal he still got human organs its just that it was never penetrated to that point but his organs remain the same it was stated in uncanny x-men and as i said before you can only speculate that sabretooth wont penetrate him but its a very dumb speculation if we consider we are talking about adamantium claws + 15 class super human strength you are dumb if you think sabretooth wont be able to penetrate him

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You can't connect the dots, can you?

Omega Red's death factor is the reason why he was able to do that to Colossus. It makes absolutely no sense at all, but that's how it happened.



death factor made him weaker thats all but he still was in his metal form and everything it just made him weaker, now sabretooth got far more advantege so evewn if colossus is full power and durability sabretooth still will be able to penetrate him

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If this was the case, then the shuriken he took in Mutant Massacre should've killed him.


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Actually, Colossus can bleed in his metal form(Cassandra Nova arc when Shaw double chops his head), and while he's not solid metal, all of his organs become metal, and his blood is like mercury/quicksilver.


Was this coming out of his mouth? Was this just spit or actual blood? I can't remember?

Also wasn't the second fight between Colossus and Shaw all in his head? I can't remember.


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If this was the case, then the shuriken he took in Mutant Massacre should've killed him.


are you dumb? this is class 15 strength we are talking about which is spider-mans level of strength + ADAMANTIUM claws you know adamantium the hardest metal on earth? plus the fact that sabretooth is an expert at fighting and killing and he knows how to deliver a deadly blow that will be much harder then an ordenery hit from a 15 class hitter and he know leathal places, in new excalibur when dark beast fought colossus he delivered a blow with a jump to a leathal spot and colossus was knocked down so that means colossus is effected by leathal spots if you put a lot of force into that

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Weapon X are too fast and skilled, they have too many sharp things and colossus doesn't have that many eyes to lose.

Weapon X everytime if they fight to the best of their ability, in which they will likely be rapid blurs compared to the massive bulk of lossus.


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Weapon X are too fast and skilled, they have too many sharp things and colossus doesn't have that many eyes to lose.

Weapon X everytime if they fight to the best of their ability, in which they will likely be rapid blurs compared to the massive bulk of lossus.


Too many sharp things? It's not proven whether or not those sharp things can cut him, and his eyes are just as durable as the rest of him.

They aren't knocking him out, and if they can't cut him, they have no way of winning this.

If those rapid blurs have no effect, then how would thy win?


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People seem to forget just how durable Colossus is and where is it stated that Victor is Class 15? Thats an insane upgrade, which Ive seen on panel, unless your just speculaing for the sake of fanboyism...Colossus could easily BFR both Creed and Logan, all he needs to do is connect.

Can He kill them? No, But i dont see them beating him either, and the second fight with Shaw was all in his head, ala Cassandra Nova.


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Too many sharp things? It's not proven whether or not those sharp things can cut him, and his eyes are just as durable as the rest of him.

They aren't knocking him out, and if they can't cut him, they have no way of winning this.

If those rapid blurs have no effect, then how would thy win?


Well if this is truly the case, why are people even arguing, yourself included, you could have just called SPITE and left it at that, no?

If upgraded Sabes doesn't have the force behind his adamantium slashes to break colossus' skin, well then this is OBVIOUSLY spite. If he DOES have the strength to open a wound, then Team win.


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