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"Id"
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Ion 2 vs Silver Surfer

Kyle as Ion 2
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Silver Surfer
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Stipulations
Because Ion 2 was short lived, feats used by the GL ring will be permitted. This is the Current Silver Surfer.

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Surfer. Ion just doesn't have the feats to compare.

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"Id"
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Originally posted by Galan007
Surfer. Ion just doesn't have the feats to compare.

In what form is Kyle outclassed?

Knowledge/Experience
Energy Output
Durability
Strength
Over all Speed
ETC�

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Maybe I'm confusing this with someone else, but didn't Kyle as the second Ion, create a pocket Universe in his hand with a thought and went on to say, that there isn't anything he couldn't accomplish.

Maybe that was the original Ion.

Meh...

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Originally posted by id369
In what form is Kyle outclassed?

Knowledge/Experience
Energy Output
Durability
Strength
Over all Speed
ETC…

Feat-wise? All of the above.

Truth be told, Kyle didn't really do anything that a well seasoned 'standard' GL would be incapable of, imo.

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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Maybe I'm confusing this with someone else, but didn't Kyle as the second Ion, create a pocket Universe in his hand with a thought and went on to say, that there isn't anything he couldn't accomplish.

Maybe that was the original Ion.

Meh...

No�Nero was per say �hotwired�, to detonate once he reached the Guardians chamber. Ion simply stopped that explosion, and neutralized it on the palm of his hand.

Considering its Nero we are talking about, that�s a vary significant feat. But nothing that shows its him holding a universe or anything like that.

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Feat-wise? All of the above.

Truth be told, Kyle didn't really do anything that a well seasoned 'standard' GL would be incapable of, imo.

True, that�s why I added the extra stipulation to permit him to make use of his previous and ongoing feats with the GL ring.

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Jan 27th, 2009 08:43 PM

Galan007
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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Maybe I'm confusing this with someone else, but didn't Kyle as the second Ion, create a pocket Universe in his hand with a thought and went on to say, that there isn't anything he couldn't accomplish.

Maybe that was the original Ion.

Meh...

Where people got the notion that Ion made a pocket universe is beyond me. If you look at what is actually happening, all he did was manipulate/contain the blast Nero discharged:

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Rage.Of.Olympus
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How the hell was I so off?

I know I read that issue only recently.

smokin'

Bad.

Causes.

rolling on floor laughing

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Feat-wise? All of the above.

Truth be told, Kyle didn't really do anything that a well seasoned 'standard' GL would be incapable of, imo.

But he would beat any standard GL as Ion, imo. Which is right.

I say he could beat SS, but I'm not gonna post any proof.

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But he would beat any standard GL as Ion, imo. Which is right.

Just because you have the Ion power, doesn't mean you can automatically pwn everyone. Look at Yat for christ sake.

At any rate, yes, Kyle should have been > the other GL's as Ion. I was merely talking about feats - and his feats are decisively sub-Surfer.

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I say he could beat SS, but I'm not gonna post any proof.

Cuz there is none?

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Originally posted by Galan007
Just because you have the Ion power, doesn't mean you can automatically pwn everyone. Look at Yat for christ sake.

At any rate, yes, Kyle should have been > the other GL's as Ion. I was merely talking about feats - and based on feats, his are nowhere close to Surfer's.

Cuz there is none?

Well Yat isn't really a good example since he is horrible at everything.

I was going off Kyle easily beating Nero compared to how Hal was fighting him, not that Kyle has Ion power so he automatically is stronger than other GL's. Also it's easier to gauge Kyle compared to other GLs with Ion, since we know how he stacks up to them w/o it, same can't really be said for Yat since he has so little showings.

There are multitudes of proof that Kyle beats SS, but you don't deserve to see it.

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Two buff characters, who received �empowerment�, but with little feats to back up they are anymore powerful then before other than word of mouth.

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What?

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Galan007
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Originally posted by Mindset
Well Yat isn't really a good example since he is horrible at everything.

True.

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I was going off Kyle easily beating Nero compared to how Hal was fighting him, not that Kyle has Ion power so he automatically is stronger than other GL's.

Hal didn't do bad at all against Nero, imo.

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There are multitudes of proof that Kyle beats SS, but you don't deserve to see it.

I know one of the stipulations in this thread is that pretty much all of Kyle's feats can be used - but I'm just talking about his feats as Ion (which weren't the proverbial 'cat's meow' by any means.)

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Originally posted by id369
Two buff characters, who received �empowerment�, but with little feats to back up they are anymore powerful then before other than word of mouth.