Being the ALMOST replacement for the Presence means nothing against someone who warped the entire Marvel OMNIVERSE. There are powers > Presence (see the Primal Monitor).
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Would be relevant if HOM Wanda were > Presence. She isn't, so your point's pretty much moot.
Anyways, I'm not entertaining this one anymore. Anytime you see a "STOMP 10/10 YEAH!!11!!!" type post involving two characters on similar playing fields, it pretty much shows ignorance of one or both of the characters involved. Otherwise, I'm done here.
Yeah you better be done here. HoM Wanda warped the entire Marvel OMNIVERSE. Do you understand what that means? That means EVERYTHING Marvel related was warped by her.
It would be like someone (Mxy) warping the entire DC OMNIVERSE and not only affecting the "mainstream" DC universe, but all the elseworlds, alternate Earths, past/present/future, the Vertigo titles, DC's comic strips, etc... ALL things DC.
She would OBLITERATE GST who was "ALMOST" the new Presence.
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..even the outer hells are indifferent matters for they bow only to potent and archaic Nodens.
It's a valid question, I think. Who decided that, because the Primal Monitor is > Multiverse, then the PM > Presence? Why couldn't the Presence (which has been stated to exist in everything) also encompass the Primal Monitor?
We know next to nothing about the Primal Monitor, so based on what little we do know, people jump to the conclusion they want, and accept that as truth, rather than being open to more possibilities.
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"And then there was nothing. A once broken something now void.
And on the first day, Doom spoke... 'Be.'
And then there was life."
You call that catty? I call that mild annoyance. What's the point "debating" this when it's clear cut. How could the Primal Monitor be the Presence or related in any way to the Presence when it wasn't even aware of the Presence or it's creation because they were amoeba's to it?
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..even the outer hells are indifferent matters for they bow only to potent and archaic Nodens.
This post completely disregards everything I said.
Look, I'm not suggesting I know the truth. I don't know anything, just like everyone else. But until I'm told directly on panel, I'm sticking to what little I know and being open to the numerous possibilities.
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"And then there was nothing. A once broken something now void.
And on the first day, Doom spoke... 'Be.'
And then there was life."
Not really. The Presence is at best multiveral. There are other realities in DC, like Vertigo with their own creator god. Even if you were to somehow claim that Vertigo "God" is the same as the Presence, that being admitted to Lucifer that there are powers above him*! Whoops.
*(need to find that scan)
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..even the outer hells are indifferent matters for they bow only to potent and archaic Nodens.
See, this is exactly the assumption that I'm talking about. You keep making it.
I'm well aware of that line. It's not relevant here for two reasons.
1) The Lucifer series is non-canon to mainstream DC (this is really all that needs to be said here)
2) God was clearly referring to the writers.
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"And then there was nothing. A once broken something now void.
And on the first day, Doom spoke... 'Be.'
And then there was life."
Ding ding ding! See what I underlined? Do you understand now? HoM Wanda was OMNIversal, meaing ALL things Marvel (mainstream or not). She would annihilate GST (who was ALMOST the new Presence, hell even if he achieved that status she would still annihilate him). The Presence by your own admission is stuck in "mainstream" DC, there are other "non-canon to mainstream DC" realities in the greater DC OMNIverse.
HoM Wanda 10/10.
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