I've seen too many awkward scenarios and crap, so I'm laying it all out. Some uber-entity nabs Silver Surfer, Superman, and Thor, and throws them on an isolated planet they can't destroy and can't leave. The planet is no bigger than frigging Rhode Island.
If Surfer loses, his home planet will be destroyed(I don't recall if it's already destroyed or resurrected in recent continuity, but let's pretend regardless).
If Superman loses, Earth will be destroyed.
If Thor loses, Asgard will be destroyed(let's pretend again).
They will fight ALL OUT. They will use every, any, and all powers at their disposal, regardless of what's in or out of character. No BFR. No prep. Standard gear. Current incarnations. They hit/shoot/and aim to kill.
Hmmm tough call really. Especially since this is a 3-way fight. SS and Thor might attack Superman, or vice verse. I think it fair to say SS has an advantage over Superman; Thor over SS, and Superman over Thor.
I am going to have to say Superman. If he goes all out to save earth. I don't see Thor stopping him. SS on the other hand could, but Superman would get the better of him when Thor fight SS.
Though, fight between 3 characters is stupid. It's a toss ups. 2 character jump one and then 2 are left. My guess is the two weakest attack the strongest. Then they fight. In this case, SS being the strongest.
Thor wins this fight, followed closely by Silver Surfer and then Superman. Superman's vulnerability to energy sapping and manipulation gets him taken out of the game easier than the others. And between the last two standing, Thor has the biggest out put of offensive power with attacks like the God Blast and the best defensive abilities ala Mjolnir.
Generally in a match like this I want to pick the most versatile character cause they are the ones with the ability to create more advantageous conditions for themselves.
So I think that would be Silver Surfer
but Thor is also quite versatile in his own right, and Superman has always been quite creative with his powers.
But I think if I had to pick a knock down drag out winner I'm probably going with Thor.
Doesn't have many exploitable weaknesses plus has a very raw power output.
I think he will be the last man standing in this fight.
I may have picked Superman due to durability but honestly he has two many weaknesses to exploit with the versatility of the other two combatants.
We've been over this. I told, I see Superman a little bit stronger then Thor. Durability can go either way. Speed goes to Superman. Versatility goes to Thor.
Offensive power goes to Thor. His God Blast that is. However, I don't see that hitting Superman, or SS if they are all going all out.
How is Superman a bit stronger? I see them as equals. If either one is stronger, whether it's Thor or Superman, the amount is so infinitesimal it wouldn't matter. Damage soak goes to Thor. Speed goes to Superman but with his reflexes, it's nothing he can't handle.
Versatility, defensive power and offensive power all go to Thor out of all three of them. He has other attacks other than the God Blast, but if the God Blast hits either of these two, they go six feet under.
I figured it'd be Surfer, considering what he could really do if he utilized his cosmic power to it's fullest extent. Like draining the solar power from Superman, or converting it into kryptonite radiation for a probable insta-kill.
I can't think of anything against Thor, but I'm sure Surfer could do it. Surfer has unlimited cosmic power, he never tires, he's almost totally invulnerable, and he's already around Superman-level strength.
Yes he has far faster movement, but Thor has the reflexes as such that Superman won't be winning this on speed alone.
Superman has a decent advantage in strength and durability? Lulz.
What has Superman done in terms of strength and durability that give him such a high advantage over Thor?
Wait, why am I even bothering arguing with you? Your the same guy who thinks Juggernaut is more durable than cosmic entities and who confuses Mirror Master with the Flash.......
Unlimited is a strong word. Besides his Power Cosmic has been overcome by Thor on more than one occasion. He might be nearly invulnerable but that doesn't mean Thor can't knock him down or even out, with his blows.
Yeah, I think we have. Well, remember most of Superman's feat are when he isn't going all out. This time, Earth is on stake. This is him going all out. That's why I give him the edge.
Everything else, I pretty much agree.
And this is Thor going all out as well. A blood lusted Thor one shots beings like Namor, kills the Thing and Hulk at the same time, puts down Durok in one attack, shoves Mjolnir down Mangog's throat, beats the Destroyer, plows through beings like the Silver Surfer, Beta Ray Bill, Adam Warlock, Maxam, Drax with the Power Gem and so on as if they were a bunch of playground children etc. That's not even using his offensive/defensive power and versatility advantage. Just raw power and strength.
A blood lusted Thor is scarier than a blood lusted Superman in my opinion. Let's not forget Thor always has the option on getting his belt of strength, and gauntlets as they are always available to him. Hell, if pushed he can enter Warrior Madness.
Yeah, Thor can get the Belt and the gauntlets, but Superman can get that Gun that puts you in the Pzone. He can get a few weapons like give him an amp. All this in a sec or so. He can even get an amp by flying to the sun in a few seconds.
Oh. I get it. You're an "Asgardian", so to speak. That explains all that sh*t I got on the Destroyer vs WWHulk thread. For those of you who aren't keeping up, I already know Destroyer wins. That's not the point.
Anyway, as for THIS thread.
I know Surfer has been contested by Thor before. BFD. They've never tried to kill each other before, though. Surfer, by all rights, could turn Thor's clothes into adamantium and then watch him teeter over like a statue. Thor's admitted before that not even Mjolnir can hurt true adamantium. So Thor's handled.
The point of this versus is that they use ALL of their powers, no matter how rare or OOC it is. Surfer's cosmic power, when used to it's fullest and true potential, in my opinion, could win.
The only thing sure is that Sups loose.
Thor have the power to manipulate matter but lack cosmic awarness to detect Sups weaknesses. But abyways, he's packed of magic, and Sups doesn't take that shit too well. On the other hand, SS can scan Sups and kill him easely.
It will fall to Surfer and Thor. I'm a Surfer fanboy and I would sooo like to say that he wins. But even if they can output nearly as much energy and even if they both can throw down h2h, Thor have a too important edge in defense. And he's a trained warrior. At the end of the day, Thor would be the victor.
Until you concede that is. Your the one who claimed Superman is stronger. Prove it. There are plenty of feats of strength from Thor that show he is as strong. I said he has superior damage soak and pain resistance etc. That I can back up.
Yes because that gun and his weapons are obviously always available to him and he can access them anywhere/anywhen and he can also somehow Sundip despite the opening thread clearly stating that they are on an isolated planet in the middle of nowhere that they cannot leave. No wonder they call him Superman!
In a normal fight, amping himself up with Solar energy would just force Thor to cut off the power source. With his energy absorbing abilities, he can absorb the entire damn Sun and drain Superman's solar storages.
That would be cool. You got all that shit on that thread, because you didn't know what you were talking about and I was simply setting some stuff straight.
Silver Surfer has used all of his power, not held back and was still put down by Thor unfortunately. Twice.
Nice theory. Unfortunately, with Mjolnir in his hands, matter manipulation isn't what your going to beat Thor with. Even if Thor allowed it, he could just use Mjolnir to say, become intangible.
Thor's stated that he can damage Adamantium though and has as I recall.
Could he win? Yes. Would he win? No in my opinion.
Thor's raw power had beings on Superman, and Silver Surfer's level running for the hills when he was blood lusted. That's not even using his more powerful offensive attacks and versatility. Here attacks like the God Blast, Anti-Force, Thermoblast and so on would be used. Each who have one shotted beings of extreme power. These guys better run for the hills, when Thor starts pulling out that type of power.
Like I said:
Thor comes in first, followed closely by Silver Surfer and then Superman.
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