Who is the biggest threats and who doesn't matter much? Graviton was able to toss ironman into space and repel him keeping him there for a good amount of time so given superman needed gear to breath in space and the others beyond green lantern can't breath in space without help.
Not that's the only way for graviton to do some damage and get wins. His fight with Thor, hulk and other avengers was really impressive for him. Nick fury said they couldn't find an upper limit to his powers and as time seemed to go on he was getting better.
Wish we had another chance to see the avengers collectively crap themselves with a rematch against him with stronger additional members like captain marvel, Ms.marvel and maybe even red hulk... Then watch as graviton ripped them apart for 2 episodes.
Side note; I didn't include batman since it would boil down to 'batman solos' or 'batman is killed first'
Graviton could increase their weight and hold all the members of the Justice League down easily without much trouble. The only one who could fight him was a completely enraged Hulk and at that point he was a lot stronger then the Justice League put together. IIRC Graviton was subjecting him to the pressure of a black hole or something.
And it took all the Avengers together to finally put him down, including a lightning bolt from Thor that was ridiculous in size. It's been a long time since I've watched the first season but based on how Giant Man tossed that tanker at Graviton, even he was probably stronger then Superman.
Their only hope is Hawk Girls mace, I remember that thing being pretty powerful at times.
@ hulk being stronger than all of JLA put together or Giant Man being stronger than superman. Rage is such a hulk mark, its not even funny. Just recently a much depowered Superman in Superman Beyond took a kryptonite moon from Earth to sun even after being poisoned. That shits on every strength feat from every Avengers' strength feat combined and that's a weakened superman.
Why are you referencing a Comic decades later, not to mention it taking place in a possible alternate future (I don't even know if those count for cartoon fights)?
How about you calm down, and actually read what I post instead of going into defensive mode anytime someone doesn't praise Superman? I was referring to the Justice League in that picture and assumed that was their power levels. Did I not specifically say the first season?
I do enjoy the irony of calling me a Hulk mark though. So typical.
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So Superman Beyond's one feat suddenly undoes the consistent power level depiction of what we've seen from Superman from Superman: TAS all the way up to JLU? Makes sense.
I really need to get that Phantom Zone projector fixed.
Its not an alternate reality. Its the "future" of JLU as shown in the JLU season four finale which also featured the end of Batman Beyond. Its as canon for JLU as Smallvile season 11 and Buffy comics to the TV shows. So nothing here for you bro. Also Lawlz @ decades later.
I read what you posted just fine. Even if we go by what was shown in the show, Superman deflected an asteroid large enough to destroy all life on earth. That's still leagues beyond what hulk did. Also giant man was stronger than superman because he threw a tanker at graviton, right? Hahahaha.
I should've said "inflating Thor's value by being a hulk mark".
Its still an indicator of how strong superman was. Of course Hulk did never go at that height again after the first season, so that feat doesn't count for him. Right jake?
Go back to your asgardia, jake. This is no place for you.
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It's from a future version of Superman and not at all the same thing as TAS/JL/JLU Superman, all of which took place within the same relative time frame, unlike Superman Beyond. Even if it's the "direct future", he's clearly not at all the exact same character. And even if we go by the logic "Superman Beyond is the direct "sequel" to the Superman we saw from the animated series, ergo we should be able to use Superman Beyond's feats for animated Superman", his feat is such a ridiculous outlier, it may as well be PIS considering how Superman consistently fared against Kryptonite.
Nope. The House of El needs a non-radical supporter who doesn't have a meltdown on a semi-regular occasion to lead it through these times.
Its a superman that was specifically stated to be the same superman from TAS/JL/JLU in Batman Beyond which is absolutely canon to JLU and the comic is canon to the show. No amount of back-pedaling would change that. Why is a different character despite being clearly depicted as the same superman except your "Nuh-uh"?
Its not PIS since he had the eradicator suit protecting him most of the time and when he actually came in contact with kryptonite, he was in danger of dying. Its superman, he does the impossible all the time.
You're not fit to join House of El's fodder rank thorbag. Go to the small world where your small god's fans resides.
Its canon to the show. That's all that matter.
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@ hulk being stronger than all of JLA put together or Giant Man being stronger than superman. Rage is such a hulk mark, its not even funny. Just recently a much depowered Superman in Superman Beyond took a kryptonite moon from Earth to sun even after being poisoned. That shits on every strength feat from every Avengers' strength feat combined and that's a weakened superman.
