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G'ovmint gonna take my baby

1. Talia Al Ghul vs Dark Beast
2. Wonder Woman(KC) vs Thanos(B&T)
3. Storm, Jean Grey, Sue Richards vs Lex Luthor+Orange ring, Doomsday clone

Scenario: Women are all enjoying a quiet picnic with their children, the bad guys show up and state that they are there for their children, they then go into "Momma Grizzly" mode.

Stipulations: Fight takes place in an isolated, rural area, children cannot participate, no innocent by-standers or civilians within 100 miles, villians have done their homework and know what they are up against, Jean Grey cannot turn "Dark" Phoenix.

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I can't see Talia winning here. But neither is the Beast. We all know how cruel Talia is, Beast is not leaving with that baby alive.

Diana's only chance of winning is to use the God Wave. If not, puts up a good fight but loses in the end.

Did Luthor ever did anything worthy with the Orange light? Is the Doomsday clones the ones from the Superman/Batman arc on Paradise island? If it's them, how many?

Or is it the Doomsday clones created by the Doomslayer form Action Comic? And are they prep like they were when they fought each individual Superman family?

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Originally posted by SquallX
Is the Doomsday clones the ones from the Superman/Batman arc on Paradise island? If it's them, how many?

Or is it the Doomsday clones created by the Doomslayer form Action Comic? And are they prep like they were when they fought each individual Superman family?
Neither actually. Forgot that there were different versions of the Doomsday clones, my bad. I was thinking the clone from the end of OWAW. I didn't read the Superman/Batman arc, is it any good?

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Only team 3 save their babies.. Storm has a kid?
I agree on the talia part. Talia can always just make another one and can cry it out when she's alone and channel it into other activities. Batman slaughters dark beast later (if it's his)


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Neither actually. Forgot that there were different versions of the Doomsday clones, my bad. I was thinking the clone from the end of OWAW. I didn't read the Superman/Batman arc, is it any good?


It was a retcon story about Supergirl.

It was written by Loeb, it was good overall, but he weakened Darkseid to make Superman shine.

The clones of Doomsday were also created by Darkseid, they were in the thousands, and once they were unleash on Paradise island they killing left and right. But they were far weaker than the original Doomsday at his lowest.

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Originally posted by SquallX
It was a retcon story about Supergirl.

It was written by Loeb, it was good overall, but he weakened Darkseid to make Superman shine.

The clones of Doomsday were also created by Darkseid, they were in the thousands, and once they were unleash on Paradise island they killing left and right. But they were far weaker than the original Doomsday at his lowest.


Yeah that's the doomsday clone I'm assuming is in this fight.
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Yeah that's the doomsday clone I'm assuming is in this fight.
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One of the reason i love that Arc was simply for the art. The story could have sucked and i would still read it.

Few artist can draw the likes of Wonder Woman with muscles, but yet still project the fact that she's a woman with curves and be feminine as ****.

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Originally posted by SquallX
It was a retcon story about Supergirl.

It was written by Loeb, it was good overall, but he weakened Darkseid to make Superman shine.

The clones of Doomsday were also created by Darkseid, they were in the thousands, and once they were unleash on Paradise island they killing left and right. But they were far weaker than the original Doomsday at his lowest.
I know that the clones are supposed to be weaker, how would you rank the clones power wise between, RoD, Superman/Batman, OWAW, and New Krypton?
I was thinking RoD, OWAW, S/B?, NK?

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I know that the clones are supposed to be weaker, how would you rank the clones power wise between, RoD, Superman/Batman, OWAW, and New Krypton?
I was thinking RoD, OWAW, S/B?, NK?


It's been a while since I read it, but I think Batman either killed one with the axe in the pic, or injured one.

You're list is good, but the Doomsday in OWAW was the original I believed.

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It's been a while since I read it, but I think Batman either killed one with the axe in the pic, or injured one.

You're list is good, but the Doomsday in OWAW was the original I believed.

Yeah I don't remember a doomsday clone in OWAW. Doomsday wrecked Manchester blacks team then later on fought against Imperiex With superman then got reduced to nothing but bone.. Then later on came back as that horrible doomsday Rex.


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Yeah I don't remember a doomsday clone in OWAW. Doomsday wrecked Manchester blacks team then later on fought against Imperiex With superman then got reduced to nothing but bone.. Then later on came back as that horrible doomsday Rex.


So it was the original then?

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So it was the original then?


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Following these events, Doomsday was released by Lex Luthor's Suicide Squad to battle Imperiex, a threat that was judged to be even greater than Doomsday himself. Once freed, Doomsday slaughtered the Squad, and then went on to battle Imperiex's numerous probes (his mind having been altered to regard them as the threat he normally perceived Superman to be), which had thus far managed to seriously injure or kill most of Earth's heroes. Doomsday tore through numerous probes with seemingly little effort, while aided by Superman — the only time the two enemies would come close to teaming up — before finally confronting Imperiex himself. Imperiex proved too much for Doomsday; he blasted him, reducing the creature to a glowing skeleton.
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Doomsday's skeleton was retrieved and his flesh regrown by Lex Luthor (by using Superman's Kryptonian DNA), who handed Doomsday over to Darkseid (Luthor's aide in the retrieval, repair, and improvement of Doomsday) to repay Earth's war debt to Apokolips. By this time, Doomsday had evolved intelligence and sentience. Luthor arranged for the Joker to set Doomsday loose in Washington, D.C. to demonstrate that he was "in good working condition." It also happened to be the anniversary of the day that Superman had died while stopping Doomsday. Despite being weakened by kryptonite exposure when Luthor attempted to exploit Doomsday's Kryptonian origins, Superman's heart was restarted by Black Lightning and he reach ed Doomsday just as the monster was struggling with the Martian Manhunter. Learning from J'onn that Doomsday wanted to kill Luthor because he blamed Luthor for his 'death' in the Imperiex War, Superman managed to defeat the creature by using his newfound sentience and intelligence against him. While Superman proceeds to take everything Doomsday throws at him and then knock him out for good, he explains how he has done so:
"You're different now. You can think for yourself. So think about this. Before, you were a mindless thing. Nothing could hurt you. You couldn't feel pain, much less understand it. But once you have felt it- it changes you- forever. And you'll begin to understand something new. Fear. I've lived with it all my life. You don't want to die again, do you? The agony of what's happened to you affects your speed- your strength ... and that little bit of doubt- that you cannot win today- grows. You understand now, don't you? You will never hurt me again. You will never kill me again. Never again!"[3]
Darkseid attempted to replicate Doomsday, producing an army of Doomsday clones. Fortunately, Darkseid was not able to duplicate perfectly the creature in all its raw power, possibly as a result of the creature's complex DNA, and they were defeated by a combination of heat vision and Batman's explosive batarangs during an attack on Paradise Island while Darkseid kidnapped the newly arrived Supergirl.[4]




That explains OWAW, his revival and the clones that Darkseid used.


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Doomsday Rex is a rebuilt (and weaker) Doomsday, so you could say a clone in a very vague sense, but it wouldn't be entirely accurate.


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That explains OWAW, his revival and the clones that Darkseid used.


Much oblige for the background info, it's been awhile since I touched those books.

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there was also that kid that had doomsday's body but with kryptonite growing from it

josh walker, i think


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there was also that kid that had doomsday's body but with kryptonite growing from it

josh walker, i think


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I had hoped they would do something with this character. I don't remember seeing him outside of the story that introduced him. I remember feeling horrible for the poor bastard that (I think) volunteered.


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that's him


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