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Why is it a sin to love someone?

Everyone is taken, most the time.

There are hundreds of thousands of better relationships they'd be in if not for a lack of effort and a devotion to monogamy.

Isn't is more greedy to have a person all to yourself?

Not to mention boring?


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IDK, I love my wife and do not find being with her only boring. What do you consider love to be?


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In the long run you will be happier alone.


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stress means I'm in love....

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Isn't is more greedy to have a person all to yourself?

Not to mention boring?

Keep your HIV out of my girlfriends plz.

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Keep your HIV out of my girlfriends plz.


Don't the Swedish have the highest rate of STI/STDs in the whole of Europe? Ewww.


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Don't the Swedish have the highest rate of STI/STDs in the whole of Europe? Ewww.

The more you know. thumb up

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Everyone is taken, most the time.

There are hundreds of thousands of better relationships they'd be in if not for a lack of effort and a devotion to monogamy.

Isn't is more greedy to have a person all to yourself?

Not to mention boring?

Monogamy is beneficial in the long run to a human being, two persons (male and female) can bond together to raise a stable family and have real companionship and security at old age from each other and also from the kids.

Health related matters also come in to play (e.g. threat of STDs), promiscuous lifestyle is risky in this context. Condoms cannot solve this issue.

There is no fun in sleeping with lot of people in the long run either, a time comes when a person feels the need for real companionship and greater stability in relationship.

Boring? Get some hobbies.

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Everyone is taken, most the time.

There are hundreds of thousands of better relationships they'd be in if not for a lack of effort and a devotion to monogamy.

Isn't is more greedy to have a person all to yourself?

Not to mention boring?


What are your relationship credentials? Like, what are you basing this on?

Also, some links for your consideration:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diminishing_returns
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_management
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benefit%E2%80%93cost_ratio
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=evolutionary+monogamy

That aside, my actual reaction to this was even more dismissive. As someone in a committed relationship, the thought of adding more is exhausting and stressful just to think about, and that's even if they were cool with it.

You want to throw d*ck all over the place? It's an enlightened time we live in. Have at it.


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I don't think it is greed that makes people desire to have a person to themselves. I believe it is societal conditioning. I find it no less distasteful however.


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Eh. I'd think even in situations with multiple partners you'd find some people wanting certain members to themselves or not sharing with others they don't know. Obviously varies but it's not strictly our society that makes people claim ownership. Otherwise wouldn't have people who would take women from other tribes and groups.

That said there is nothing wrong with those who chose not to engage in monogamy, but on the same hand it's silly to treat monogamy itself as evil or stupid. Let people do what works for them.

I don't trust most of the people in my neighborhood. So wouldn't want the assholes raising my kids, so to me just me and my lover is fine.


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Why is it a sin to love someone?

It's not a sin.


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I agree with you, I may have worded that incorrectly. I do not think that the concept of ownership in general, or a special, more exclusive relationship with someone in particular is due to conditioning. It is strictly the glorification and romanticisation of monogamy that I believe to be mostly based on societal expectations.

I believe a fair amount of people have no desire to be monogamous for themselves, and I don't think that the requirement of sexual exclusivity of their partner is based in anything other than acceptance of the status quo (though perhaps underlying is greed and envy, I just don't think that's what moves most people to desire exclusivity from their partner).


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Originally posted by Bardock42
I agree with you, I may have worded that incorrectly. I do not think that the concept of ownership in general, or a special, more exclusive relationship with someone in particular is due to conditioning. It is strictly the glorification and romanticisation of monogamy that I believe to be mostly based on societal expectations.

I believe a fair amount of people have no desire to be monogamous for themselves, and I don't think that the requirement of sexual exclusivity of their partner is based in anything other than acceptance of the status quo (though perhaps underlying is greed and envy, I just don't think that's what moves most people to desire exclusivity from their partner).


Yeah I agree that a good portion of people wouldn't if it was more accepted and I do find it wrong how a lot of western society treats other views on relationships. But I think plenty do like it, the types that aren't but eventually decide to be later on in life. Or those who do it more so to focus on raising a family.


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Maybe, I find it hard to estimate how these numbers would look in a society that does not blast us with imagery of happily ever after, soulmates, prince charming, etc. 24/7 from the day we are born.


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Maybe, I find it hard to estimate how these numbers would look in a society that does not blast us with imagery of happily ever after, soulmates, prince charming, etc. 24/7 from the day we are born.


To me the fact that we got to this point shows that at the very least a sizable amount of the population would be and was ok with monogamy at least to a degree.

The exact numbers? Likely can't know. But it would have caught on like it did if everyone hated it their entire lives


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Originally posted by Mindship
It's not a sin.


Well yeah. But that's not really the interesting discussion.

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I don't think it is greed that makes people desire to have a person to themselves. I believe it is societal conditioning. I find it no less distasteful however.


And evolution and practicality. There are legit reasons for it, not just because we're too scared to stop being "sheeple" or some such thing.


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