It seems the story was written to illicit a response, which it did, as I initially fell for it and kneejerked.
Could very well be that while I don't necessarily agree with the practice, they're not breaking the law and if the person who had the abortion consents, it's really not much different than someone donating their body to science after they're dead.
"For instance, the “smoking gun” of the original video occurs at the 12:24:00 mark when Nucatola states a price of “$30 to $100,” but it’s unclear exactly what she is talking about. In the unedited version, Nucatola adds a little clarification:
“It has to do with space issues, are you sending someone there who is doing everything, or is their staff, what exactly are they going to do, is there shipping involved or are you coming to pick it up.
Although it is unlawful “to knowingly acquire, receive, or otherwise transfer any human fetal tissue for valuable consideration if the transfer affects interstate commerce,” it is legal for patients to donate extracted material for medical research. It’s possible that Nucatola is merely outlining the costs (e.g., labor, shipping) of that process, which allows “reasonable payments associated with the transportation, implantation, processing, preservation quality control, or storage of human fetal tissue."
In a press release issued in response to the video, Planned Parenthood asserted that this was the case"
"A well funded group established for the purpose of damaging Planned Parenthood’s mission and services has promoted a heavily edited, secretly recorded videotape that falsely portrays Planned Parenthood’s participation in tissue donation programs that support lifesaving scientific research. Similar false accusations have been put forth by opponents of abortion services for decades. These groups have been widely discredited and their claims fall apart on closer examination, just as they do in this case.”
The Center for Medical Progress is led by David Daleiden and his associate James O'Keefe, who produced a series of egregiously misleading and severely edited videos implicating an innocent man in international human trafficking in an attempt to smear ACORN.
Three hours of footage edited from their Planned Parenthood "investigation" have leaked to YouTube, and surprise, surprise, it does not support their allegations.
"The accusation that Planned Parenthood is illegally selling the organs of fetuses is not new among antiabortion advocates. The controversy gained national attention in 2000, after the publication of an undercover investigation by a Texas-based antiabortion group, Life Dynamics, which was also involved in Tuesday’s _video release."
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"It’s hard to assess exactly what happened at the lunch with Nucatola. The antiabortion group had complete control over the filming and editing of the footage. The group also posted a nearly three-hour version of the video that it’s calling the 'full footage,' though there is no way to verify that the video is truly complete."
"The accusation that Planned Parenthood is illegally selling the organs of fetuses is not new among antiabortion advocates. The controversy gained national attention in 2000, after the publication of an undercover investigation by a Texas-based antiabortion group, Life Dynamics, which was also involved in Tuesday’s _video release.
The investigation’s conclusion, that a Kansas clinic affiliated with Planned Parenthood was participating in a scheme to profit from the sale of fetal tissues, prompted a 20/20 hidden camera investigation on the subject, and a hearing of the Subcommittee on Health and Environment in the House of Representatives.
The FBI also investigated the Kansas clinic for any wrongdoing, but later concluded that it did not break any laws."
"An antiabortion group on Tuesday released an undercover video of an official at Planned Parenthood discussing in graphic detail how to abort a fetus to preserve its organs for medical research — as well as the costs associated with sharing that tissue with scientists.
Over lunch at a Los Angeles restaurant, two antiabortion activists posing as employees from a biotech firm met with Deborah Nucatola, Planned Parenthood’s senior director of medical research. Armed with cameras, the activists recorded Nucatola talking about Planned Parenthood’s work donating fetal tissue to researchers and pressed her on whether the clinics were charging for the organs.
The Center for Medical Progress, which recorded and edited the video, says the footage proves that Planned Parenthood is breaking the law by selling fetal organs. But the video does not show Nucatola explicitly talking about selling organs. The Planned Parenthood official says the organization is “very, very sensitive” about being perceived as illegally profiting from organ sales and charges only for the cost, for instance, of shipping the tissue.
The video threatens to reignite a long-standing debate over the use of fetal tissue harvested through abortions and could add fuel to efforts seeking to ban abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy."
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"Armed with cameras, the activists recorded Nucatola talking about Planned Parenthood’s work donating fetal tissue to researchers and pressed her on whether the clinics were charging for the organs."
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Further the extended video posted by the group makes it clear that the doctor is only talking about storage, shipping, transportation and labor costs, not selling the fetus, which would be illegal (also if they were to sell it the price would be considerably higher).
So the video does not prove at all that anything illegal is going on, it actually suggests more than Planned Parenthood is very cautious about not profiting from the donations of fetuses to scientific research.
Of course these laws should be checked, and generally it's good they are looking into it, but the edited videos for shock value and links, which doesn't show what they say is just disingenuous (the group says it has more videos in the future, perhaps it actually catches wrong doing in some of them, but it seems unlikely, since they probably started with their strongest case, and that didn't show anything illegal).
I like how Planned Parenthood gets attacked constantly by anti-abortion groups, even though it's the organization that's easily, by far, done the best job in reducing the number of abortions while most anti-abortion groups actually raise the number (it turns out not teaching contraceptives = increased number of unwanted pregnancies).
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