SunRazer
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Anakin Skywalker vs Reborn Krayt (sabers only)
Who prevails? Sound state of mind for all, fight takes place on Had Abbadon.
Oct 2nd, 2016 08:57 AM
chingchangwalla
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Krayt's more versatile, can match Anakin's strength, stamina and speed. Also has more experience.
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Oct 2nd, 2016 09:00 AM
Ursumeles
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Anakin, 8+/10
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Oct 2nd, 2016 09:10 AM
SunRazer
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Certainly, Krayt is more experienced, but Anakin's innate aptitude with a lightsaber unquestionably exceeds his.
Ching, care to back up why Krayt can match Anakin's strength and speed? If one takes the RotS novel's narration, which labels Anakin as the fastest and strongest in the galaxy, I'd imagine it'd be difficult to place Krayt on such a level.
Oct 2nd, 2016 09:13 AM
chingchangwalla
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by SunRazer
Ching, care to back up why Krayt can match Anakin's strength and speed? If one takes the RotS novel's narration, which labels Anakin as the fastest and strongest in the galaxy, I'd imagine it'd be difficult to place Krayt on such a level.
Well we know that isn't true because he can't speedblitz 2 Jedi masters at the speed of light. Amped Mace is also faster, as is Yoda.
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Oct 2nd, 2016 09:16 AM
SunRazer
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Well we know that isn't true because he can't speedblitz 2 Jedi masters at the speed of light. Amped Mace is also faster, as is Yoda.
According to what? Anakin almost as easily plowed through Cin Drallig whilst Choking another Jedi and arguably, whilst hindered.
Oct 2nd, 2016 09:18 AM
chingchangwalla
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Comparing those fodder Jedi to Tiin and Kolar is ridiculous. Drallig has done nothing that compares to the former either
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Oct 2nd, 2016 09:22 AM
Ursumeles
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What speed/strenght feats has Krayt, which are >=Anakins?
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Oct 2nd, 2016 09:24 AM
SunRazer
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Drallig's the one who's listed as being unparalleled in combat, not Tiin or Kolar. Drallig was the one named amongst the top Jedi swordsmen (Obi-Wan, Mace, Yoda etc.) by Dooku, not Tiin or Kolar. Drallig was also better than Shaak Ti.
One could argue that Tiin and Kolar are better , but to suggest that Drallig can't compare to either of them (especially Tiin) is ludicrous.
Oct 2nd, 2016 09:29 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by SunRazer
Certainly, Krayt is more experienced, but Anakin's innate aptitude with a lightsaber unquestionably exceeds his.
Ching, care to back up why Krayt can match Anakin's strength and speed? If one takes the RotS novel's narration, which labels Anakin as the fastest and strongest in the galaxy, I'd imagine it'd be difficult to place Krayt on such a level.
We saw A'Sharad Hett being able to hang with Kenobi for a while, the same Kenobi that defeated Anakin in his prime.
Reborn Krayt is far, far more powerful than he was on Tatooine.
Oct 2nd, 2016 09:32 AM
Ursumeles
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Unbowed
the same Kenobi that defeated Anakin in his prime.
Anakin wasn't remotely close to top condition in this fight.
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Oct 2nd, 2016 09:33 AM
SunRazer
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Unbowed
We saw A'Sharad Hett being able to hang with Kenobi for a while, the same Kenobi that defeated Anakin in his prime.
Reborn Krayt is far, far more powerful than he was on Tatooine.
You mean in a fight that had more circumstances than lightsaber moves? Hett vs Obi-Wan was also filled with circumstances - in Hett's favor.
Anakin's confirmed, repeatedly, to be better than Obi-Wan as a swordsman. He's an entire tier above his master - a tier being the gap between TPM Kenobi and RotS Obi-Wan.
Oct 2nd, 2016 09:41 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by SunRazer
You mean in a fight that had more circumstances than lightsaber moves? Hett vs Obi-Wan was also filled with circumstances - in Hett's favor.
Anakin's confirmed, repeatedly, to be better than Obi-Wan as a swordsman. He's an entire tier above his master - a tier being the gap between TPM Kenobi and RotS Obi-Wan.
Ehh, no. Obi-Wan is at least as skilled as Anakin.
Anakin is more powerful , yes, but it was Kenobi's skill that allowed him to take advantage of the "circumstances".
And I fail to see how Hett had any advantage. He clearly had lost his way, as Obi-Wan himself says. He couldn't fight with the calm and clarity of a Jedi, and had no way of taking advantage of the Dark side inside of him like a Sith would.
Oct 2nd, 2016 09:49 AM
SunRazer
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Obi-Wan won because his mentality was better and Anakin's overconfidence led him to mistime his leap.
Otherwise, even Obi-Wan conceded that Anakin would beat him:
quote: As Anakin’s lightsaber hummed toward him, a calm certainty filled Obi-Wan. Anakin was going to kill him. Oh, he’d make Anakin work for it. He’d fight with everything he had. But he was positive, with the sureness that came from any Force-driven insight, that he would die at Anakin’s hands.
-- Revenge of the Sith Junior Novelization
Not to mention:
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quote: "Obi-Wan has gone up one level from Episode I to Episode III, but it’s a huge jump from one level to another. It’s not just about a style of fighting—it’s mental as well. Anakin has gone up probably four levels from Episode II to Episode III. So he’s gone beyond Obi-Wan, but he hasn’t gone beyond him mentally."
--http://www.theforce.net/episode3/story/nick_gillard_talks_rots_game_92147.asp
quote: 'Obi-Wan taught Anakin and Anakin has gone past him,' he notes.
-- The Making of Revenge of the Sith
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And:
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quote: This is Anakin Skywalker:
The most powerful Jedi of his generation. Perhaps of any generation. The fastest. The strongest. An unbeatable pilot. An unstoppable warrior. On the ground, in the air or sea or space, there is no one even close. He has not just power, not just skill, but dash: that rare, invaluable combination of boldness and grace.
He is the best there is at what he does. The best there has ever been. And he knows it.
-- Revenge of the Sith
There's no denying it. Anakin's flat-out better than Obi-Wan.
As for Hett, yes, he was at the advantage. Obi-Wan was slightly out of practice then, and Hett had the environmental advantage as well:
quote: He did not think about how long it had been since he had last used his lightsaber in combat. Nor did consider that he was older than Hett by at least a decade, or Hett's considerable skills with his own weapons, and that the Tusken was far more experienced at fighting in the desert.
-- The Life and Legend of Obi-Wan Kenobi
Oct 2nd, 2016 10:02 AM
MythLord
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^ Also, Kenobi was holding back for most of them fight, and once he realized: "Oh yeah, Luke!" he stomped Hett.
On topic: Anakin takes this.
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Oct 2nd, 2016 10:27 AM
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Reborn Krayt.
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Oct 2nd, 2016 04:09 PM
The Ellimist
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Anakin, IMHO.
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Not sure.
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Oct 2nd, 2016 06:16 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Ursumeles
Anakin wasn't remotely close to top condition in this fight. Being emotionally hindered isn't that bad. He's not far off from being tip-top shape.
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Oct 2nd, 2016 06:37 PM
Jaggarath
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Jmanghan
Being emotionally hindered isn't that bad.
It is for Anakin.
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