Rebel95
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When was Anakin/Vader at his best? Invisible hand, Knightfall, Rebels, or ROTJ? Discuss
Dec 15th, 2016 08:04 PM
MythLord
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Knightfall, assuming there wasn't confliction. If there was, then Invisible Hand.
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Dec 15th, 2016 08:06 PM
Rebel95
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I think it's Knightfall in legends, rebels in canon. They're all really close though.
Dec 15th, 2016 08:07 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by MythLord
Knightfall, assuming there wasn't confliction. If there was, then Invisible Hand.
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Dec 15th, 2016 08:13 PM
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Knightfall, without a doubt.
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Dec 15th, 2016 08:17 PM
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Knightfall. Sidious must've masturbated himself watching the holovid of Vader's massacre.
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Dec 15th, 2016 08:22 PM
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I mean, Hayden's a pretty guy.
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Dec 15th, 2016 08:29 PM
Rebel95
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by TenebrousWay
Knightfall. Sidious must've masturbated himself watching the holovid of Vader's massacre.
Dec 15th, 2016 08:44 PM
ares834
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ESB.
Dec 15th, 2016 08:45 PM
Beniboybling
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Knightfall in light of recent revelations.
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Dec 15th, 2016 09:16 PM
Rebel95
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What are these revelations you speak of
Dec 15th, 2016 09:24 PM
Beniboybling
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This Canon statement also makes a lot more sense if it's referring to Rots Anakin & Knightfall Vader:
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On the other hand (Canon) evidence against Anakin > Vader is not solid, and can be rebut.
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Dec 15th, 2016 09:40 PM
ares834
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That's not solid evidence either.
Dec 15th, 2016 09:58 PM
Beniboybling
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I look forward to your rebuttal then.
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Dec 15th, 2016 10:40 PM
Rebel95
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Beniboybling
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This Canon statement also makes a lot more sense if it's referring to Rots Anakin & Knightfall Vader:
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On the other hand (Canon) evidence against Anakin > Vader is not solid, and can be rebut.
Oh yeah I've seen that before. It could just be talking about his lost potential though, and it's contradicted by the quote in LOTS that says his injuries strengthened his connection to the force. Star Wars is so annoying with all of its inconsistencies.
And the one that's talking about Kylo Ren is saying Anakin/Vader, as a whole, is the most powerful jedi and sith. At least that's how I interpreted it.
That being said, I think Knightfall Vader and peak suit Vader are probably about the same overall, they both have their own strengths.
Dec 15th, 2016 10:54 PM
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Canon: Rebels/LotS/ANH
Legends: RotJ
composite: Knightfall/Zonakin
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Dec 15th, 2016 10:56 PM
Beniboybling
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Rebel95
Oh yeah I've seen that before. It could just be talking about his lost potential though, and it's contradicted by the quote in LOTS that says his injuries strengthened his connection to the force. Star Wars is so annoying with all of its inconsistencies.
It said before , so its evidently not referring to his potential but to the power he had as Anakin.
And LotS is from Vader's perspective, this is objective.
quote: And the one that's talking about Kylo Ren is saying Anakin/Vader, as a whole, is the most powerful jedi and sith. At least that's how I interpreted it.
???
quote: That being said, I think Knightfall Vader and peak suit Vader are probably about the same overall, they both have their own strengths.
And yet he's described as the most powerful Sith, which obviously isn't the case for suited Vader.
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Dec 15th, 2016 11:22 PM
ares834
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Kurk
Canon: Rebels/LotS/ANH
Interesting. Why do you think ANH Vader > ESB Vader?
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I look forward to your rebuttal then.
The latter is certainly referring to potential as Anakin is not more powerful than Yoda nor is any version of Vader more powerful than Sidious.
The first could also be referring to potential.
Regardless, neither is a definitive indication that pre-Mustafar Vader > suited!Vader.
Dec 15th, 2016 11:28 PM
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RotJ easily.
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Dec 15th, 2016 11:32 PM
Rebel95
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Beniboybling
It said before , so its evidently not referring to his potential but to the power he had as Anakin.
And LotS is from Vader's perspective, this is objective.
???
And yet he's described as the most powerful Sith, which obviously isn't the case for suited Vader.
Isn't the quote from a 3rd person point of view? And you realize objective means it's not influenced by personal feelings, right? Lol, anyways, the same could be said for the picture you posted, it's Palpatine's opinion.
I'm saying that the quote is referring to Anakin/Vader being the most powerful force user in regards to his raw power. Obviously he wasn't stronger than Yoda as Anakin or Sidious as Vader.
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