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Rebel95
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Prime Anakin/Vader

When was Anakin/Vader at his best? Invisible hand, Knightfall, Rebels, or ROTJ? Discuss

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Knightfall, assuming there wasn't confliction. If there was, then Invisible Hand.


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I think it's Knightfall in legends, rebels in canon. They're all really close though.

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Knightfall, assuming there wasn't confliction. If there was, then Invisible Hand.


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Knightfall, without a doubt.


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Knightfall. Sidious must've masturbated himself watching the holovid of Vader's massacre.


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I mean, Hayden's a pretty guy.


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Knightfall. Sidious must've masturbated himself watching the holovid of Vader's massacre.

laughing out loud

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ESB.

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Knightfall in light of recent revelations.


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What are these revelations you speak of

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This Canon statement also makes a lot more sense if it's referring to Rots Anakin & Knightfall Vader:

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On the other hand (Canon) evidence against Anakin > Vader is not solid, and can be rebut.


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That's not solid evidence either.

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I look forward to your rebuttal then. smile


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This Canon statement also makes a lot more sense if it's referring to Rots Anakin & Knightfall Vader:

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On the other hand (Canon) evidence against Anakin > Vader is not solid, and can be rebut.

Oh yeah I've seen that before. It could just be talking about his lost potential though, and it's contradicted by the quote in LOTS that says his injuries strengthened his connection to the force. Star Wars is so annoying with all of its inconsistencies.

And the one that's talking about Kylo Ren is saying Anakin/Vader, as a whole, is the most powerful jedi and sith. At least that's how I interpreted it.

That being said, I think Knightfall Vader and peak suit Vader are probably about the same overall, they both have their own strengths.

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Canon: Rebels/LotS/ANH
Legends: RotJ

composite: Knightfall/Zonakin


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Oh yeah I've seen that before. It could just be talking about his lost potential though, and it's contradicted by the quote in LOTS that says his injuries strengthened his connection to the force. Star Wars is so annoying with all of its inconsistencies.
It said before, so its evidently not referring to his potential but to the power he had as Anakin.

And LotS is from Vader's perspective, this is objective.

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And the one that's talking about Kylo Ren is saying Anakin/Vader, as a whole, is the most powerful jedi and sith. At least that's how I interpreted it.
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That being said, I think Knightfall Vader and peak suit Vader are probably about the same overall, they both have their own strengths.
And yet he's described as the most powerful Sith, which obviously isn't the case for suited Vader.


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Originally posted by Kurk
Canon: Rebels/LotS/ANH


Interesting. Why do you think ANH Vader > ESB Vader?

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I look forward to your rebuttal then. smile


The latter is certainly referring to potential as Anakin is not more powerful than Yoda nor is any version of Vader more powerful than Sidious.

The first could also be referring to potential.

Regardless, neither is a definitive indication that pre-Mustafar Vader > suited!Vader.

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RotJ easily.


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It said before, so its evidently not referring to his potential but to the power he had as Anakin.

And LotS is from Vader's perspective, this is objective.

???

And yet he's described as the most powerful Sith, which obviously isn't the case for suited Vader.

Isn't the quote from a 3rd person point of view? And you realize objective means it's not influenced by personal feelings, right? Lol, anyways, the same could be said for the picture you posted, it's Palpatine's opinion.

I'm saying that the quote is referring to Anakin/Vader being the most powerful force user in regards to his raw power. Obviously he wasn't stronger than Yoda as Anakin or Sidious as Vader.

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