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Batman 1M Vs Karate Kid

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Want to say Batman 1 Million, as I'm sure space karate from his era is vastly improved to the 31st century stuff Val knows.

But the truth is, there aren't enough feats for Batman.


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Want to say Batman 1 Million, as I'm sure space karate from his era is vastly improved to the 31st century stuff Val knows.

But the truth is, there aren't enough feats for Batman.


Shows what you know, Val learned a type of karate that allows him to learn any kind of karate that will ever be invented.


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Shows what you know, Val learned a type of karate that allows him to learn any kind of karate that will ever be invented.


Yeah, but Batman learned every type of karate that won't be invented. smile


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B1M stomps...

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You could say Batgod got cheapshotted here, though.

But yeah, I also think B1M wrecks Kid.


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Of course the person Batman 1M is doing that to is vastly less powerful then KK.


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Yah, but it shows he doesn't just know space karate...he knows PSYCHIC space karate.

On top of that, he could create multiple hard light clones, all able to move independently (and with presumably the same skill as the original),


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Of course the person Batman 1M is doing that to is vastly less powerful then KK.


Batman has stalemated one version of KK and made the other one look like Rihanna.

Robin has taken on KK and his ally in Trapped in Time animated movie, lol. Kid will never be on Batgod's level.


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Exactly. thumb up

That level of skill(both physical and metaphysical) + that level intellect(IQ=1045) + that level of tech(ability to create 'avatars', flight, soul-stealing, a suit with massive computation capability, teleportation, etc.)? Yeah, B1M stomps decisively.


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On the tech note, B1M also carries around equipment that allows him to instantly teleport others to Tesseract Space:
http://i.imgur.com/D9qTxh9.jpg
...And unless your name is "Lobo", you're not getting out of there unaided.


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Batman has stalemated one version of KK and made the other one look like Rihanna.

Robin has taken on KK and his ally in Trapped in Time animated movie, lol. Kid will never be on Batgod's level.


Batman fight him some other time then Lightning Saga and Brave and the Bold? Because the way I remember it, B&B was an embarressment for Val, but Lightning Saga he needed Black Lightning to bail him out.


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Batman fight him some other time then Lightning Saga and Brave and the Bold? Because the way I remember it, B&B was an embarressment for Val, but Lightning Saga he needed Black Lightning to bail him out.
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Bruce and Val fought twice in pre-Flashpoint continuity.

The first time was in Brave and the Bold #05:
http://i.imgur.com/iM3egth.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cb4HqmV.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0zQ2Ifg.jpg

The battle was a stalemate for the most part, before it was interrupted.


Soon afterward they fought again in JLA #08("The Lightning Saga"):
http://i.imgur.com/WwyVRGg.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Ud2Axt8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/75fkIRI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KBjAroN.jpg

This time we learned that Clark had ranked KK as a class 15 fighter(for a point of comparison, Batman himself was ranked as a class 12.) And despite multiple cutscenes, KK appeared to have a decisive edge this time--he was only stopped when Black Lightning suckered him from behind.


Countdown #50 retold the above battle--this time without the cutscenes:
http://i.imgur.com/ZGjZ5p2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xTSBD2A.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/159WdXO.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LFoz78c.jpg

Bruce performed admirably, but KK was still shown to have the clear advantage. In fact, after the battle Black Lightning said that Clark got it wrong: KK should be a class 25 fighter, not a class 15. Lol.


*Even though these fights occurred the same year(2007), from an in-universe POV the issue of Brave and the Bold was set BEFORE The Lightning Saga:
http://i.imgur.com/7X8eEUI.jpg


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Yes. But in the end, KK's face looked like Rihanna's after her adventures with Chris Brown "The Hank Pym of Music".


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Cdtm? I can't beat him on my own. Please call Lord Rand!

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Can we all at least agree this psychic space octopus karate shiit is pretty puking stupid


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Originally posted by Galan007
Exactly. thumb up

That level of skill(both physical and metaphysical) + that level intellect(IQ=1045) + that level of tech(ability to create 'avatars', flight, soul-stealing, a suit with massive computation capability, teleportation, etc.)? Yeah, B1M stomps decisively.


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On the tech note, B1M also carries around equipment that allows him to instantly teleport others to Tesseract Space:
http://i.imgur.com/D9qTxh9.jpg
...And unless your name is "Lobo", you're not getting out of there unaided.


On top of that, he seems to have a device that reforms broken structures (as seen in his left hand, when sucking Bruce).

How it works, and how it applies to the fight, I do not know. Does it rewind time in a localised bubble? Does it manipulate matter? Anybody's guess, unless there is more info out there. But it's a neat little trick all the same.


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Heh, I can't even guess how many dozens of times I've read the series, and I have never once noticed that. Nice spot. thumb up


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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Batman has stalemated one version of KK and made the other one look like Rihanna.

Robin has taken on KK and his ally in Trapped in Time animated movie, lol. Kid will never be on Batgod's level.


Deathstroke beat a JLA team consisting of Flash and Green Lantern too. Spider-Man beat Firelord.

People keep bringing up the low showings for KK as if it means something.

The scan posted of Batman 1M absolutely does not in any way show he could automatically defeat KK operating at the levels he normally operates on. If this is KK via when he jobbed to Batman then okay, Batman 1M wins.

This is what every KK thread boils down to: low balling him by bringing up the Batman feat. Let's ignore 90% of showings because Batman totally one time beat him, because Batman isn't the biggest fanwanked character by comic writers?


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Okay, so what feats does KK have that make you think he can beat B1M? Please be specific.


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Actually you are the one who came and posted a scan of Batman 1M and said it showed why he won. So isn't on you to show why? Since again: doing it to Batman is not the same as doing it to Karate Kid.

So keeping in mind his speed and strength, why would this work on Karate Kid? If you don't know his speed and strength, why would you assume it would automatically work?

It's not even like Batman 1M did this to a combat ready Batman. They are talking and then the dude turns around and uses..whatever the f*ck that is.


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