I don't think anyone is really attempting to blame Trump for the current problem, and Beni says, it's been going on for a long time - decades. Really all the way to WWII's end. And all presidents for decades have tried, and ultimately failed, to handle NK.
What people are saying is that Trump's rhetoric is simply unhelpful, if anything, to the current situation.
Personally I don't have that big a problem with what he said, I get what he was going for - a projection of American strength towards NK in an attempt to intimidate them. The problem is that in doing so he evoked images of nuclear warfare which isn't just frightening for NK (actually didn't seem to frighten them at all) but for everyone. He also kinda backed himself into a corner by drawing his red line at "threatening America" as opposed to attacking America. By saying that threats would be met with Fire and Fury, he basically dared Kim J to continue to threaten America, which he did, and of course Trump hasn't met those threats with fire and fury because despite what many think, he's not a lunatic hellbent on global catastrophe, he bluffed, and Kim J called his bluff, as everyone knew he would.
Anyways, I think what he could have done is simply drawn the red line at attacking America and remove the images of nuclear warfare. Something like "An attack on America or any of our allies will be met with the full fury of the American military". Would have achieved the same thing, just without causing alarm among the populace he is supposed to represent.
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Last edited by BackFire on Aug 10th, 2017 at 09:08 AM
I appreciate the straight forward response. Here's what I would say:
The one problem with drawing the "red line" at an actual attack is this provides no incentive for NK to discontinue their attempts to gain the capability to attack us.
Ultimately, I really doubt that their end goal is to actually attack us. I think they just want the bargaining chip of being capable of doing so. I think the administration sees allowing this capability to manifest as a failure in and of itself, regardless of whether an attack actually happens.
I think there is some logic to that idea; certainly allowing a belligerent rogue dictatorship the privilege of gaining that kind of leverage is something that would best be avoided. But here's the pitfall:
NK's very existence seems somewhat predicated on defying and opposing the United States. They seem very unlikely to capitulate based on threats alone. At least that has been the pattern they display thus far.
So what if they just call Trump's bluff? My only fear is not necessarily that a bluff is exposed, but that Trump will potentially follow through on his threats after all. Which I think would pose a serious potential for disaster.
My only question is when did Dennis the Menace gain so much weight and dye his hair black?
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