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Captain Cold Vs Juggernaut

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Can CC's ability to create absolute zero, completely inhibiting atomic movement trump Juggernaut's Cyttorak derived unstoppable momentum factor?

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Snart freezes the speed of light ftw.

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^^^Well i know he (CC) can slow down a Flash, was wondering if he could stop a Juggernaut.

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I don't think he can.
Magic, by it's nature, trumps the laws of science.

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Didn't Juggernaut just get stopped/slowed down by Iceman.

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I don't think he can.
Magic, by it's nature, trumps the laws of science.

Gotta disagree with that, the magic over science thing.
There's plenty of evidence in comics of it going both ways.

Anyway, i saw this duscussed for several pages at HC, and was hoping for at least a handful if responses here. stick out tongue

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Gotta disagree with that, the magic over science thing.
There's plenty of evidence in comics of it going both ways.

Indeed. In the recent Dr.Strange story "last days of magic" covered this subject. Advanced technology from Empirikul nearly wiped out all of magic. There is other stories where magic > science. So flip a coin depending on the writer which one trumps the other

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Depending on the writer, but the original Juggernaut depictions had him walking through Iceman's powers as if they meant nothing to him, At his best I'll say that Captain Cold would have no effect on Cain.

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I don't think he can.
Magic, by it's nature, trumps the laws of science.

That seems true of conventional science. Snart commands super-science forces though, like frequently creating temperatures below absolute zero.

Still, Juggernaut probably wins this.

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Depending on the writer, but the original Juggernaut depictions had him walking through Iceman's powers as if they meant nothing to him, At his best I'll say that Captain Cold would have no effect on Cain.

Iceman stopped the amped juggernaut that could kill cyttorak

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Iceman stopped the amped juggernaut that could kill cyttorak

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Which is why I mentioned that it would depend on the writer. Cain at his best would ignore Iceman as he has in the past, or all the X-Men would have ever needed to stop the bum would be Bob. That was never the case until writers began attempting to nerf Cain. IMO Cain would scare the living shit out of Captain Cold in a comic.

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Well if you going by juggernaut's best then have to do that for Cold who can manipulate reality with his cold gun.

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However in the herochat thread this came from (and before iceman incident) I said cold couldn't stop juggernaut. Perhaps slow down but not stop

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I don't think he can.
Magic, by it's nature, trumps the laws of science.

Oh yeah? Well, going down to absolute zero trumps the laws of science even harder. Let alone freezing the speed of light.

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Well if you going by juggernaut's best then have to do that for Cold who can manipulate reality with his cold gun.

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However in the herochat thread this came from (and before iceman incident) I said cold couldn't stop juggernaut. Perhaps slow down but not stop

I can dig it. He may be able to slow him down. The concrete foundation, and mountain that he fell in or that fell on top of him slowed him down.

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I don't think he can stop Juggy. Magic.

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Oh yeah? Well, going down to absolute zero trumps the laws of science even harder. Let alone freezing the speed of light.

Captain Cold can reduce temperature to below absolute zero. I think someone posted a scan of it.

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Captain Cold can reduce temperature to below absolute zero. I think someone posted a scan of it.

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Cold can't "freeze the speed of light".

Even Pre-Crisis ain't that retarded.

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LOL, repost the scan?

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Cold can't "freeze the speed of light".

Even Pre-Crisis ain't that retarded.

Yup. Nothing beats the current crop of crap coming from Marvel for sheer idiocy. Nothing.

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https://static.comicvine.com/upload...735263-cold.jpg

He also used this ability to warp reality and shattered flash into shards of body parts

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