1. I look at the actual skill they displayed. Batman is far more skilled than Logan.
2. I look at their history, and not 1 fight. You can have two peer fighters fight each other multiple times and each fighter will get a win. So beating someone in a fight doesn't necessarily mean you are better than them in general (just like with any sport).
3. Characters don't always fight at their best in comics. In other words, it can be a low showing for Shang Chi. Even Spider-man has had some shitty showings.
4. abc logic for skill comparison is faulty when it comes to characters from different universes why? Because we have no basis in which to compare. Why is Logan better than Batman? Because he beat Shang Chi. But Why is Shang Chi better than Batman? Because he defeated A. But why is A better than Batman? Because A defeated B. But why is B better than Batman? I can go on and on. There has to be a beginning basis (character X). But how would you compare that character X to Batman using abc logic if they never fought?
Logan gave Cap a massive hematoma with a casual kick while pinned down, got Daredevil in a full nelson hold in a few panels after getting blindsided, beat Danny in their exhibition match in front of the New Avengers.
The clot move is good, but doubt it would work if Cap wasn't open from nullifying the claws.
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I'm not even offended he brought that up as an Iron Fist fan. I'm offended as a comic book fan. That story was AWFUL.
Misty and Cage actually hit Junzo, they looked better then Logan.
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Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
And Rand was at a 3 anyways. [SPOILER - highlight to read]: I love how Logan gave absolutely no shits about his come back.
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No claws, no fist. Anything else was a fair game and Danny got bested.
Their first fight was written back when Wolverine had no martial arts background or even fully established powerset. And Danny looked like Beast trying to slow down the Juggernaut in that fight.
Because it was obvious Danny was butthurt about losing
Same as he's always butthurt about Daredevil and Shang-Chi being better than him.
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