Should men looking to be women and vice versa be encouraged or even allowed to cut their body parts off which causes irreparable damage to their bodies and mental stability solely on their feelings etc?
Don't let anyone tell you different Eon, we support whatever decision you choose to make.
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No, I dont think people should be encouraged to, or allowed. It causes permanet damage that your body was not made for, and the adding of hormones isnt the same as being born with different DNA.
Plus, the suicide rate post Op, is extremely high.
People shouldnt be encouranged to switch sexes which is actually impossible, your chromosomes never change.
soon they'll be able to grow male and female reproductive organs in labs, and the whole "but mutilation" argument will go right out the window.
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I met a few who ended up committing suicide after the transition. I honestly say it's your money so it's up to you. Eon if you're a transvestite you shouldn't have to be pushed to do anything.
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I certainly don't think the vast majority of doctors are the best people to be providing guidance on it and pushing one way or the other. Not sure there are all that many pre and post op clinicians though. Either physical or mental, who would be better suited to doing so. Seems to be a significant gap there in the necessary expertise to allow people to fully realise the decision they'd be making and what it's psychological impacts could mean.
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I fully support H1A8's transition into becoming a nonbinary cephalopod
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I feel like issues like these should be observed as a case by case basis and shouldn’t all be treated in a homogeneous fashion; Jill may wake up one day feeling like a boy at a young age, but may very quickly outgrow said feeling, therefore never having required surgeries or hormones in the first place. If Jill opted to act purely on her emotions, irreplaceable damage would have taken place leading down a much darker path than initially perceived. I’m vehemently opposed to diagnosing anyone under the legal age with transgenderism and I believe it’s honestly a detriment to our youth to place that burden.
I’m of the stance that it should be allowed if there is a marked history where the individual would mentally show improvement, but cases like this need to be severely observed and notated by medical professionals. Jack shouldn’t be allowed to remove his genitals just because of his incorrect and misplaced emotions.
That seems like very one sided framing. To answer the main question "should they be encouraged?", I think everyone should be encouraged to find their self fulfillment. From my point of view trans people face a lot of adversity that is a very strong disincentive to following their desires on the matter, that social adversity needs to be eliminated, so that everyone can choose to live with the gender and with the body (to the best of sciences ability) that they desire. I understand there is a worry that perhaps people get pressured into doing things that they might not want to, and we should be mindful of that, from my POV our society is not really there, barring a few cherry picked cases. Ultimately from a moral standpoint the harm done to those that transition due to pressure that did not want to needs to be weighed up with the harm done to those that do not transition do to pressure but wanted to. I know which one I view as the bigger risk in current society.
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I wouldn't say fringe even. I think GRS can save society immense amounts of money by integrating a previously suffering person into the economic system and alleviating mental health issue that may otherwise require an expensive long-term psychological intervention. And that's not even to talk about any moral considerations one might have.
Of course there need to be some measures to ensure that the person is sure about it and does need it, though I am always worried of implementing powerful gatekeepers or create inefficient means tested systems.
Perhaps you may liken it to the argument to have gastric bypass surgery being covered by insurances of all kinds. The idea is that you will have much higher costs long term as you support the severely obese person into their old age of ill health, and on the other hand, a successful intervention will pave the return of the person into the value creating work force. I understand that point of view is somewhat alien to American tastes, but it's pretty common in European social democracies.
Last edited by Artol on May 28th, 2020 at 03:48 AM
I don't mean to come off as uncaring, or naive. What does gastric bypass surgery have to do with changing ones genitals? I'm in full support of having a universal Medicare system for emergency situations. I don't think gender reassignment falls in that category.
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