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Beyonder and Beyonders vs Eonymous and Retconn corps

Beyonder (pre-retcon) and Beyonders (Time Runs Out) vs Eonymous and Retconn corps (Milk Wars)

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Eonymous godstomp.

From their perspective, the entire DC continuum(all Spheres, inc. the Overvoid/Source and subsequently Dark Multiverse) is just a small, flat, 2-D surface/map... And they 'accidentally' created the Young Animal-verse, along with all of the mind-numbing metafictional stories/histories/concepts within(like Retconn Corps, The Disappointment, Ahl, Final Heaven, etc.), just by spilling a bit of coffee on the Multiverse Map(which, again, from their vantage point, literally represents the sum total of DC -- it's how they view all of creation beneath them):
https://ibb.co/FHWYpKL

*Confirmed by Steve Orlando:
https://vimeo.com/447641086


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Wow, this is an interesting piece of DC cosmology I was not previously aware of.

That said: https://comicvine.gamespot.com/foru...nn-cor-2074330/

Not that I’m agreeing with the above post, but what are your thoughts Galan?


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Wow, this is an interesting piece of DC cosmology I was not previously aware of.

That said: https://comicvine.gamespot.com/foru...nn-cor-2074330/

Not that I’m agreeing with the above post, but what are your thoughts Galan?
You should read the 2016-2018 run of Doom Patrol and "Milk Wars" if you haven't already. The metafiction produced in that series will melt your brain(in a good way.) thumb up

Anyway, I think I've seen that write-up before. Some points are pretty solid, while others I disagree with.

Seems like he is moreso comparing the 'status' of Retconn Corps and Final Heaven to the 'status' of Monitors and Nil. They are similar in many ways, but they are certainly different entities all together -- Retconn/Final Heaven(and the entire Young Animal continuity) was created when a member of Eonymous accidentally spilled some coffee on the map, while the Monitors/Nil obviously existed beforehand.

As for the Eonymous themselves, I've never been exactly sure where to place them... But the implications of the scene I posted are pretty staggering, as it suggests that even the Overvoid/Source itself is all just part of their Map... Part of the mechanism that helps feed their personal entertainment.


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I do agree that while there are parallels to the Monitors and the Eonymous, the latter definitely seems to transcend the Multiverse in a much greater way, given the Monitor Sphere/Nil (where the Monitors exist) and beyond (to the Source Wall, Destiny, and the surrounding Overvoid) are part of the map that the Eonymous transcends.

I would argue the Eonymous just transcends the greater Omniverse of DC entirely, including the Source/Presence and its Hands.


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eonymous stomps

is milk wars canon though?


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I do agree that while there are parallels to the Monitors and the Eonymous, the latter definitely seems to transcend the Multiverse in a much greater way, given the Monitor Sphere/Nil (where the Monitors exist) and beyond (to the Source Wall, Destiny, and the surrounding Overvoid) are part of the map that the Eonymous transcends.

I would argue the Eonymous just transcends the greater Omniverse of DC entirely, including the Source/Presence and its Hands.
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It all depends on your perspective, but the implications that the Eonymous transcend pretty much all are certainly there, imo.

For example, Retconn Corps has the means to erase ALL stories within reality, with a literal click of a button:
https://ibb.co/5nf4DQ0

...Yet the Eonymous are still so far above Retconn/Final Heaven that even their retardedly metafictional hijinks equate to little more than a Saturday morning cartoon relative to the Eonymous.

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eonymous stomps

is milk wars canon though?
It is canon, as it is technically an overlapping part of the mainstream multiverse. We know it's canon as well, because certain characters from the Young Animal imprint, like Ahl, have appeared in mainstream books. Moreover, Milk Man himself was created by Retconn to try and mirror Superman(whose story/narrative was beyond even their ability to directly manipulate, but that's a discussion for another day.)

Anyway, the coffee ring depicted here represents where the Young Animal continuity sits in the multiversal superstructure:
https://ibb.co/nBmGSLK

As you can see, it encompasses a portion of every realm: from the local multiverse, to the God Sphere, to Limbo, to the Monitor Sphere, to the Source Wall, and even into the Overvoid/Source itself.

And like I said above: the Eonymous created the YA-verse(along with all of its fully meta stories/histories/concepts) completely by accident -- by simply spilling a bit of their coffee onto the Map. They are... Stupidly OP.


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