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Shang Chi vs Daredevil/Elektra

DD and Electra are possessed by the Hand and are hired to kill Shang. They break into his home. This is a deathmatch.

Can Shang prevail?

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I guess I havent kept up with Shang in a long time so i'm not understanding how he has a chance here, but i'm willing to learn and listen.


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I guess I havent kept up with Shang in a long time so i'm not understanding how he has a chance here, but i'm willing to learn and listen.

Really? I thought Shang Chi was supposed to be the best martial artist in Marvel?

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Really? I thought Shang Chi was supposed to be the best martial artist in Marvel?


Doesnt Elektra have mind control powers? Is Shang immune to that? Again, I dont know.


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Daredevil would hold his own, but lose a majority. There could be arguments for both sides against Elektra. Against both, it's spite.


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Last time DD was possessed he soloed Shang, Iron Fist, Spidey, Wolverine, Electra and Punisher. Not sure how Shang stands a chance.

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Last time DD was possessed he soloed Shang, Iron Fist, Spidey, Wolverine, Electra and Punisher. Not sure how Shang stands a chance.


If that's true then it doesn't count. DD can't beat Spidey or Wolverine in a forum setting, possessed or not.


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If that's true then it doesn't count. DD can't beat Spidey or Wolverine in a forum setting, possessed or not.


Its canon so it counts. He was amped though. Read Shadowland


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Its canon so it counts. He was amped though. Read Shadowland
PIS or SMvsFL doesn't count, canon or not.

Since he was amped then it doesn't count here.


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PIS or SMvsFL doesn't count, canon or not.

Since he was amped then it doesn't count here.


OP says DD is possessed, so why isn't it counting?

Also dude DD has matched Spidey several times without amps no problem

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/u...p1_super_1_.jpg


https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/u...yz_super_1_.jpg

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/u...rman_287_18.jpg
Spidey eventually got on top of that one a few pages later

He's also done the same to Logan once and has soloed the xmen team

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DD matched Spider-Man only when Spider-Man was holdin back and didn't fought seriously.

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Possessed with what powers, exactly? DD with Beast possession was powerful, but "Hand" possession apparently doesn't have same power level as Beast demonic possession.

Elektra once fought with Shang Chi to standstill, also. Without being possessed.

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Matt wins via white privilege


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Last time DD was possessed he soloed Shang, Iron Fist, Spidey, Wolverine, Electra and Punisher. Not sure how Shang stands a chance.


Yes, but he was possessed by the Beast specifically. And that amped him drastically.

"Normal" possession is not going to do that, not to such degree at least, unless that was the thread starter's (marcssands14) intention.


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DD matched Spider-Man only when Spider-Man was holdin back and didn't fought seriously.


Wrong.

Matt knocked bloodlusted Peter out --- even though Parker landed a cheapshot.

And Parker had the symbiote, too. And before you say the symbiote didn't amp him back in the day... it's debatable, it did provide him unlimited webbing and few other perks... and new comics exploring that particular period actually show us that Parker was enhanced.


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Wrong.

Matt knocked bloodlusted Peter out --- even though Parker landed a cheapshot.

And Parker had the symbiote, too. And before you say the symbiote didn't amp him back in the day... it's debatable, it did provide him unlimited webbing and few other perks... and new comics exploring that particular period actually show us that Parker was enhanced.


Knocking bloodlusted Spidey was a PIS (Spider-Man has taken worse punishment and wasn't KOed like that), plus Spider-Man wasn't in his right mind (Spidey was wearing a black suit also, not a symboite, if I recall correctly, KOing a symbiote Spidey would be even more PIS).

Daredevil has actually admitted once than she can't outfight Spidey, but can only outthink him, when Spidey was mind-controlled and blitzed him even after DD was able o see Spider-Man's attack, but was unable to react on his punch.

Also, Spider-Man, while being mind-controlled, knocked DD out with a single good punch, although DD wasn't in his suit and didn't expected that from Spidey (Spider-man was without his suit too), but in fact DD even after landing a hit on controlled Spidey was pwned by him.

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Matt wins via white privilege


Isn't asians have better IQ and etc? Although it's very blurry (IQ, I mean).

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OP says DD is possessed, so why isn't it counting?

Also dude DD has matched Spidey several times without amps no problem

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/u...p1_super_1_.jpg


https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/u...yz_super_1_.jpg

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/u...rman_287_18.jpg
Spidey eventually got on top of that one a few pages later

He's also done the same to Logan once and has soloed the xmen team


Wolverine and Spider-Man can sit there and allow DD to hit them all he wants and they will not be severely damaged. Unless you think taking hits from class 50 and above characters is PIS (Luke Cage, Hulk, etc). Can't have it both ways.


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Eh, it's comics - you CAN have it both ways, thanks to the magic that is pressure points.


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Just imagine a 100 tonner knew them. Like if Thing knew pressure points in all those classic fights.


Come to think of it, Superman did use pressure points to effectively blitz peers:

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qi...f478852eb70f3db

https://m.imgur.com/S4XrLPj

laughing out loud Pressure points are OP.


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