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Namorita vs. Rogue
Can Namorita handle Rogue?
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Mar 22nd, 2024 03:16 PM
juggernaut74
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I'd say probably not because of Rogues absorption ability. Without it I'd go with Namorita.
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Mar 23rd, 2024 01:12 AM
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I actually think Rogue with Ms. Marvel's power was stronger and more durable than Namorita.
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Mar 23rd, 2024 01:30 AM
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Isn't Rogue supposed to be 50 tons while Namorita 75 officially?
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Mar 23rd, 2024 01:38 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by juggernaut74
Isn't Rogue supposed to be 50 tons while Namorita 75 officially?
Yeah but Rogue has lifted things on panel that were heavier than 50 tons. Plus durability wise, Namorita is very suspect.
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Mar 23rd, 2024 01:41 AM
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Going off my declining memory but wasn't Rogue shown stopping a train once? I also seem to recall her maxing out or maybe repping 47 tons in the Danger Room. I can't think of any Namorta strength feat.
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Mar 23rd, 2024 02:30 AM
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Mar 23rd, 2024 12:12 PM
juggernaut74
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I never saw that Blackbird feat I remember seeing that being stated in a comic once weighing 300 tons?
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Mar 23rd, 2024 01:19 PM
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I'll have to look up the Blackbird's weight. I think it was mentioned in the old handbooks but I don't recall it mentioned in the comics.
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It weighs about 145,000 lbs or 72.5 tons.
PS, In case you haven't noticed I'm sort of obsessed with Rogue with Ms. Marvel's power. The original Ms. Marvel (before the Kree Binary amp) was nothing special. She could lift like 1 ton, fly at sub sonic speeds, and she wasn't even bulletproof. When Rogue absorbed her power, something went wrong with the transfer. The transfer SERIOUSLY amped the powers. Rogue was CL50 (at least), she could fly at super sonic speeds, she was bulletproof, and had incredible durability (an angry Binary out for blood punched Rogue with Ms. Marvel's power into orbit and Rogue wasn't even KOed!).
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Mar 23rd, 2024 02:53 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by juggernaut74
I never saw that Blackbird feat I remember seeing that being stated in a comic once weighing 300 tons?
lol that would be like 1.5 times what an empty 747 weighs
What the **** are they carrying on the Blackbird
Mar 23rd, 2024 03:45 PM
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Rogue beat Nimrod so if the trajectory is able she should be able bodied ftw.
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Mar 23rd, 2024 05:25 PM
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There was a scan floating around the forum years ago saying that the Blackbird weighs 300 tons as crazy as it sounds.
Going by feats it seems Rogue is indeed stronger than Namorita unless someone knows something about Namoritas strength.
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Mar 23rd, 2024 09:04 PM
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Unless Namorita is somehow much much more skilled than Rogue, Rogue should win pretty handily.
And that's not even getting into the power draining through direct contact. If Rogue wanted, she could put Namorita into a coma the way she did to Carol.
Mar 23rd, 2024 09:33 PM
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Classic Rogue also has speed feats way beyond anything I've seen from Namorita
This feels like a stomp tbh
Mar 23rd, 2024 09:50 PM
Stoic
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Namorita at that time maxed out at 15 tons, you guys are thinking about Namora who is nearly as strong as Namor.
Rogue with or without absorption would have wrecked Namorita.
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Mar 27th, 2024 04:13 AM
juggernaut74
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I don't think Namorita has any strength feats or fights to guess her strength level.
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Mar 27th, 2024 05:42 PM
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Why would you believe that I was guessing? Back in her New Warriors days, she could max press 15 tons.
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Mar 29th, 2024 10:36 PM
juggernaut74
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I wasn't talking directly to you I was basically agreeing that she doesn't have any strength feats of note.
BTW are you saying that she shown lifting 15 tons directly?
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Mar 29th, 2024 11:09 PM
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Yes, and no. Official hand books had her pegged at class 15 tons. She had an underwater battle with a treasure pirate decked out in Black Manta type armor, and was either too weak, or not durable enough to defeat him without the use of a protective armor that she uses in a rematch. She was soundly defeated in the first fight.
Rogue would've had a far easier time, with no armor needed.
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Mar 31st, 2024 06:32 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Stoic
Yes, and no. Official hand books had her pegged at class 15 tons. She had an underwater battle with a treasure pirate decked out in Black Manta type armor, and was either too weak, or not durable enough to defeat him without the use of a protective armor that she uses in a rematch. She was soundly defeated in the first fight.
Rogue would've had a far easier time, with no armor needed.
I think the handbooks have her at CL75 (which is obvious BS since we've never seen that on panel from her).
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Also, she wasn't at her best when she was ambushed by Sea Urchin (the pirate mentioned) :
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