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DOS Doomsday vs Hercules

The Superman killer vs the Prince of Power in a h2h slugfest, who wins?

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Herc kills him


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Herc kills him
How? DD is technically close peers in strength and durability to Superman. Superman is significantly stronger and somewhat more durable than Hercules.

For each hit, DD would do more damage to Hercules than he did to Superman and also for each hit, Hercules would do less damage to DD than Superman did to DD.


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Herc kills him


How?

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Doomsday kills him with ease.

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DOS Doomsday destroyed the Justice League and went to a double KO vs a serious Superman. This is spite against Hercules.


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You guys must surely realize by now that Carver no longer even pretends to debate.......


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I remember Herc wrecking a team once during a redemption arc he had. But DoS faced far greater foes. I don't see him putting Supes on the ropes like DD did.


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Doomsday is just a mute Rhino, Herc breaks him.


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Herc gets his licks in, but otherwise gets beaten to a bloody pulp.

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Herc gets mauled. He'd do well for a time, but he'd eventually get the shit beaten out of him.


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You guys must surely realize by now that Carver no longer even pretends to debate.......
Sad.........

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Dark, your tactic is one of the reason why I think Herc wins this. We had a debate a while back about the Avengers vs Hulk and you mentioned how powerful the Avengers was in the Avengers title which is the reason the fight wasn't that impressive. If we limit this fight by only using fts directly from DOS books, Herc wins this with ease. It's kind of like WWH vs whomever. We use fts directly from that story, nothing after or before. Why treat Doomsday differently here. Now if you agree with what I am saying here, I do not mind debating this topic.


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Dark, your tactic is one of the reason why I think Herc wins this. We had a debate a while back about the Avengers vs Hulk and you mentioned how powerful the Avengers was in the Avengers title which is the reason the fight wasn't that impressive. If we limit this fight by only using fts directly from DOS books, Herc wins this with ease. It's kind of like WWH vs whomever. We use fts directly from that story, nothing after or before. Why treat Doomsday differently here. Now if you agree with what I am saying here, I do not mind debating this topic.


That wasn't quite the same thing, at all.

My point back then was that in team books, SOME characters are written to be way more powerful than they are in their solo titles.

I can easily name one - Batman. In his solo titles, he struggles in h2h with Joker, Two-Face, Bane etc. In his team books, he stands up to herald level attacks and tanks them.

I will name another, since you hate me using Batman. Daredevil in his solo titles struggles with human level attacks - then in team books, faces the Hulk. Fights Ultron.

Do you agree?

So if SOME characters, through scaling, are shown to be way more powerful in teams thanks to writers - then it follows that SOME characters have to be shown to be weaker than in their solo books.

I am not sure, though, what this has to do with the topic in this thread. Apples to Oranges.


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Dark, your tactic is one of the reason why I think Herc wins this. We had a debate a while back about the Avengers vs Hulk and you mentioned how powerful the Avengers was in the Avengers title which is the reason the fight wasn't that impressive. If we limit this fight by only using fts directly from DOS books, Herc wins this with ease. It's kind of like WWH vs whomever. We use fts directly from that story, nothing after or before. Why treat Doomsday differently here. Now if you agree with what I am saying here, I do not mind debating this topic.
Even if you limit DD to Dos he still wins.
Superman is stronger and more durable than Hercules.
The only thing that hurt DD in dos was Superman letting loose (not holding back any longer). Each strike from that type of Superman >> each strike from Hercules. Each strike from Hercules would do LESS damage than each strike from Superman.


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@dark...

That's not what you said. You mentioned the Avengers struggling to stop a city destroying asteroid while translating this to the characters being weak. Seems pretty simple to me. Let's not change things.

Now back to characters like WWH, fts only from that story being used. If we limit Doomsday showings with just DOS fts as stated in this title (WWH), Hercules kills him. Do you agree or do you not agree?


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Even if you limit DD to Dos he still wins.
Superman is stronger and more durable than Hercules.
The only thing that hurt DD in dos was Superman letting loose (not holding back any longer). Each strike from that type of Superman >> each strike from Hercules. Each strike from Hercules would do LESS damage than each strike from Superman.


I can prove all of this wrong. Do you want to debate using fts PRIMARILY from DOS, as stated in the title? Yes or no?


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I can prove all of this wrong. Do you want to debate using fts PRIMARILY from DOS, as stated in the title? Yes or no?
DD feats are against Superman. Superman > Hercules


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DD feats are against Superman. Superman > Hercules


Again, if we use fts directly from that book, DOS, Hercules stomps here. Do you not understand what I am saying, lol. The thread title say DOS Doomsday. DOS. Now if you want to debate based off the thread title, let me know.


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