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The Rover

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Names of the Nine Ringwraiths

What do you think?
This website has a good outlook on them:Encyclopedia of Arda=awesome!!


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I know that site. Use it all the time. The Nazgul have no names. Any names you think you know are fics. Some are kinda cool though


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This is what they say in the FAQ:
'What are the names of the Nazgul?

One of them, the second in rank after the Lord of the Nazgûl himself, was named Khamûl, and also known as the Black Easterling. This is the only one of the nine Nazgûl explicitly named by Tolkien.

This may come as a surprise if you've come across one of the many sources that list a set of names of the other eight: Murazor (the Witch-king himself), Dwar, Ji Indur, Akhorahil, Hoarmurath, Adunaphel, Ren and Uvatha. These names are common across the Web, and often have detailed biographies to go with them. They're also consistent with what Tolkien had to say about the origins of the Nazgûl: in the Akallabêth it is stated '...among those whom he ensnared with the Nine Rings three were great lords of Númenórean race', and indeed three of these names are Númenórean in form: Murazor, Akhorahil and Adunaphel.

None of these eight names, though, have their origins in Tolkien's own work. Instead, they come from a series of role-playing and trading card games produced by Iron Crown Enterprises. The names of Murazor, Dwar and the rest emerged from the unavoidable need for these games to develop and expand Tolkien's universe to meet the needs of the gaming fraternity. The games' popularity accounts for the regular appearance of the names, to the extent that they're now frequently presented as the 'true' names of the remaining eight Nazgûl.

Some readers have even suggested that these names are so widely accepted that they should be considered the de facto names for the eight otherwise unnamed Ringwraiths. On a personal level, or in the context of the games that spawned the names, this isn't an unreasonable approach: if Tolkien never told us the name of, say, the Witch-king, there seems little obvious harm in imagining that his name was originally Murazor (or anything else, for that matter). Things become a little more problematic where the names are published without explanation: we receive plenty of e-mail from puzzled readers trying to work out which of Tolkien's books the names come from (hence this entry in the FAQ).

As for The Encyclopedia of Arda, this site is very specifically aimed at exploring Tolkien's own works, so it really isn't appropriate to include names or biographical details that we know did not come from Tolkien himself. Indeed, the same principle applies to characters who appear only in the recent movies, so it's not our intention to provide entries for (say) Hoarmurath, Uvatha or - for that matter - Lurtz from Peter Jackson's movie of The Fellowship of the Ring.'

Interesting.


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Discus amongst yourselves.
I am leaving for a Family Reunion on Thursday, and returning Monday.
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The names are interesting and awesome indeed, but they are just made up by some people and not exactly intended by Tolkien so...erm


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They would be kings of men consumed by thier rings would they not?


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quote:
Originally posted by Gorgoroth
Murazor (the Witch-king himself), Dwar, Ji Indur, Akhorahil, Hoarmurath, Adunaphel, Ren and Uvatha.


The only name of those I like is Murazor (aka Er-Mûrezôr);
Some of the others sound veryVERY fake, even for eastern languages - like for example Ji Indur, the Ji in the beginning sounds so absolutely like several other fantasy works, but not like Tolkien sad same goes for Hoarmurath (the oa).
Uvatha reminds me, personally, of Uvathar / Avathar, the Shadows, a part of Aman.

Adûnaphel, Akhorahil and Murazôr are indeed nice names though, using parts of the few known Númenórean words (Adûnaphel: Adûnakhôr and Zimraphel; Akhôrahil: Adûnakhôr, Adrahil (<Agrahil) / Zimrahil (<Zimraphêl) or Imrahil; Mûrazôr: Gimilzôr, Imrazôr, mûr might be the adûnacized word related to eldarin môr, morn "black, dark" like the Númenóreans also used qu. lóme in their language)
[not sure about the accents, il look them up no expression ]

Interestingly, those "númenórean Lords" must have lived before the Shadow really fell over Númenor; at that time, all the kings (and obviously their relatives) still used High-elven, not Adûnaic names.
But the others sounds too made-up erm


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quote:
Originally posted by Gorgoroth
Dwar, Ji Indur, Akhorahil, Hoarmurath, Adunaphel, Ren and Uvatha



lol Star Wars names they sound like.


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I take that personally, Exa.


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O.....k, it's not even you who wrote it but whatever.


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I also assumed there was Witchking and another one, and that was it....

Discos - I also assumed me and Thor was gonna be keeping the same bleeding sigs miffed:


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meh i decided to change stick out tongue


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(change it back)

but as (shadowy i think) said some of the names arnt even Tolkien's, its hard to know for sure unless it was printeed in a book

HoMe would be a good start to start asking questions smile


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You could always ask George Lucas, he seems to know the names laughing out loud


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hmmm.....didnt tolkien say wat the men's names were..or is that wot we r tryin 2 find out...either way im confused lol....


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quote:
Originally posted by Discos
but as (shadowy i think) said some of the names arnt even Tolkien's, its hard to know for sure unless it was printeed in a book

HoMe would be a good start to start asking questions smile


Except for Khamûl, they are all fanfiction and hence also dont occur in the HoME no expression
There's practically no more information about them except for the bits in LoTR and the Unf.Tales and some few lines in the History.


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hmm all i know is that ALan lee played one of them, when they were men.


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quote:
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hmm all i know is that ALan lee played one of them, when they were men.


Yea, in the prologue, the one on the right side big grin I think somebody else from the team also played one of them confused


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thats pretty cool big grin


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