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WOULD MINAS MORGUL have been easier to defend?
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WOULD MINAS MORGUL have been easier to defend?

Do you think if Gondor kept Minas MORGUL it would have been easier to defend then minas tirith?

From the one scence we had it looked like minas morgul had a large gate and just one way in. would have been much easier to defend.


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Maybe it would have been, the problem is that it obviously wasn't as Sauron already conquered it and destroyed the White Tree there 109 years after it was built in the late Second Age;
Obviously the armies of Gondor re-conquered it only a few years later in the Last Alliance; as Sauron was kinda powerless, they kept it until Gondor was weakened by the Great Plague and Minas Ithil (=Morgul) had to be given up; after two years of siege it was eventually taken again by the forces of Sauron and the Witchking.
Seems that it wasn't so hard to conquer at all no expression ~ or it was just attacked more often as it was on a strategically important place.


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ah Exa you corrected my post before I began lol - I was away to say it would've been very easy to defend....but you reminded me that it was sieged more than once

KirRock is right, it did only have 1 pathway and it looked like it was a bridge over a pile of crap. The walls were much bigger than Minas Tirith's as well

Discos - but that's from the MOVIES point of design


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but that's from the MOVIES point of design

That's exactly the point.

I can't exactly remember the description from the book, I think it wasn't too different from the film in the main parts (bridge etc), but still I wouldn't rely on the pix only because "thats how they made it in the film so it HAS to be right" erm


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Re: WOULD MINAS MORGUL have been easier to defend?

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Do you think if Gondor kept Minas MORGUL it would have been easier to defend then minas tirith?

From the one scence we had it looked like minas morgul had a large gate and just one way in. would have been much easier to defend.


Hard to say. Minas Morgul (if it was defended by Gondorians, Minas Ithil) looked more like a tower than a fortress. The narrow road leading to it would have forced attecks to attack in a narrow line. That's one good defense.


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most likely it could have had another way in

it was benched against a mountain, climb down the mountain?

Discos - sod that


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Do you think if Gondor kept Minas MORGUL it would have been easier to defend then minas tirith?

From the one scence we had it looked like minas morgul had a large gate and just one way in. would have been much easier to defend.


erm.. that same thing was thought about helms deep but they got in did'nt they. roll eyes (sarcastic)


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talking about the siege of minas tirith... in the book the orcs dug giant ditches with fire in them didn't they? and didn't the seige last like 4 or 5 days?.... the movie made it seem like it was over night....


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talking about the siege of minas tirith... in the book the orcs dug giant ditches with fire in them didn't they? and didn't the seige last like 4 or 5 days?.... the movie made it seem like it was over night....


umm no were not talking about the siege of MINAS TIRITH.

and for the person that said it was just like helms deep..not really if you think about it helms deep had a long row of just a wall where ladders could be placed or it could be knocked down. mingas ithil (morgul) had a sorta fire moat and one bridge into it. if they just stacked up archers on that bridge who knows... but also we only got a very small scence in the movie.


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i know what minas mogul is ... i mean in the other post they mention tirith. Minas morgal in the movie was a castle butin the book was an entire city.


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