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Originally posted by Soljer
Saichourou? One of the strongest DBZ warriors?

Grand Kai? Who is that in the non-shitty-dub version? Kai-oo-shin? One of the Kaious? Rou-Dai-Kai-oo-shin?

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Originally posted by King_Cold
You don't know much about DBZ do you?

First, dub rocks, you wouldn't understand what they were saying if it wasn't for the dub, unless you speak other languages (Which I will never do.)

Second, The Ancient Super Saiyan was featured in a flash back during DBZ season 2.

And third, Guru most have been uber when he was younger.

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Originally posted by Soljer
You didn't answer my question - who the hell is Grand Kai really?

Further, the dub sucks bawls. Like...large yellow and purple hairy ones. .

Moreso, the 'ancient super saiya-jin' was a golden oozaru, was he not?

Lastly - there is no reason for Saichourou to have been 'uber.' Nail was the only 'fighter' type among the Nameks, and he was utterly pathetic - Saichourou and Dende were both of the dragon clan, and would have been even MORE useless in a fight than Nail was.

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Originally posted by King_Cold
To answer your first question, Grand Kai is second in command only to the Supreme Kai. He rules over the four Kais. He also holds the Kai Tournament. He is said to be the best fighter in the universe, but stopped training a long time ago.


To answer your second question, no one knows what it was, except that it was so freaking powerful that it was consumed by its own life force & it was the most powerful saiyan ever.

And in response to your last question, Guru said that Kami could "Only" be beaten by a Super Saiyan, and Guru was much more powerful than him.

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Originally posted by Soljer
Too much filler - I can't take this stuff. Dai Kaio was mentioned, I believe, in the manga. But never seen. He doesn't exist.

The 'ancient' super saiya-jin legend was mentioned, but never seen on panel - and it was never said that he consumed himself with his own power.

And, finally Saichourou never said DICK about being stronger than Kame, nor did he say that Kame could only be surpassed by a super saiya-jin.

Thusly, you have Vegetto, and Dende.

Against pre-crisis superman.

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Originally posted by King_Cold
Why can't dubbed characters be featured? Dub is better than the manga.

The Dai-Kaioshin was shown to be more powerful than Kid Buu as he held his own against a Kaioshin absorbed Buu, and The North Kai was stated to be more powerful than the Dai-Kaioshin, and The Grand Kai was said to be the greatest warrior in the universe even after he stopped training. So that would mean.


Grand Kai in his prime condition>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Grand Kai>>>>>>>>>>>King Kai>>>>>>>>>Kid Buu.

Those, Grand Kai in his prime condition (half of a > ) Gogeta SSJ4>>Super Vegetto.

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Originally posted by Soljer
Uhhh...

That's nice and all...but the dub is shit compared to the manga. .

And, anywho, Dai-Kaioshin never fought Buu. And North Kaiou is 'King Kai' - the one that's not even as powerful as Vegeta or Nappa from the Saiya-jin saga.

And, you still haven't rectified the fact that they don't exist, .

It's still Super Vegetto and Dende versus Pre Crisis Superman.

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Originally posted by King_Cold
Did you even watch the dubbed Buu saga?

In The Kaioshin TV Special, Kid Buu absorbs the Dai Kaioshin thousands of years before Goku was born, and thats how Fat Buu came to be. And it was stated that King Kai was stronger than The Dai-Kaioshin in the dubbed version.

And further more, even if King Kai wasn't, Grand Kai still was much stronger, and in his prime condition, he could beat SSJ4 Gogeta.

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Originally posted by Soljer
Then that's another dumb-ass-conflict that the dub is very well known for.

'King Kai' is weaker than Vegeta in the Saiya-jin saga, who is infinitely weaker than the Dai-kaioshin, or Kid Buu, for that matter.

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Originally posted by celestialdemon
Pre-crisis Superman FTW. His sneezes blew a solar system away.

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Originally posted by Soljer
And, further, since you edited, Grand Kai doesn't exist. Even if he DID exist, he'd only be more powerful than the Kaiou - not the Kaioushin.

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Originally posted by King_Cold
Then why was it said in the dubbed and enhanced version that he is the most powerful warrior in the universe?

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Originally posted by Soljer
Because his existence is just more filler trash contradiction.

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Originally posted by Soljer
'Stupid ass Americans'?