Both of them are strong, but niether are not quite on the level of Thor or Superman.
Wonderman has been on the avengers roster for some time, but he has always been in the shadow of Thor and Herc. Yet he was always seen as stronger than the likes of vision and She hulk. He has also displayed some impressive feats (not many though); He easilly stopped a printing press with the power of 50 kilotons, and managed to hold up the skyskraper that was thrown at him by Nefaris. It is also rumored that in his first apperance he took the Avengers apart.
Superboy was cloned by starlabs to create a new Superman. Although it was originally thought that Superboy had super strength but it soons discovered that he had a form of tactile telekinesis. This though is formidable in its own right and has been used to stop trains, and nuclear missiles. I also heard he recently took out thye entire teen titans roster.
Ok Wondermans in his Ionic form he is really pissed. He has just found out that Wanda serioulsy likes me, and the fight will be set in some non biased arena, umm i dont know the French alps. Who Wins u decide
Because usually they include something that is called:
SvFL
Spiderman vs. Firelord, or SvFL, is a shorthand that refers to any time when a character performs a feat that their powers and skills should be blatantly insufficient for, and is not repeated or is rarely repeated again relative to the character's overall established career, as well as the character's opponents' established showings. In statistical terms, it is an outlier, something that is radically beyond the character's established capabilities. For example, Spiderman defeating a herald of Galactus is a case of the SvFL exemption; however, Batman being able to sneak up on Superman is not because he has done so frequently under different writers.
For standard debates, feats considered to fall under the SvFL exemption are not valid. Likewise, examples of writing which go against firmly set canon are also ignored. For example, in Larry Hama's run of Batman and Grell's run of Iron Man, both characters were out of character and did things very much against established canon; therefore those runs are disregarded.
' Larry Hama's run of Batman and Grell's run of Iron Man, both characters were out of character and did things very much against established canon; therefore those runs are disregarded.'
Cool what type of things were they doing?
Do you diseragard the recent JLA/Avengers crossover. I know its a bit off the point but who cares.
Wonderman is said to be physically indestructible.... and nothing has disproved that yet... he also beat Thor (without the hammer) he doesn't need to breath or sleep so his stamina may be greater than S-Boy
'Wonderman is said to be physically indestructible.... and nothing has disproved that yet... he also beat Thor (without the hammer) he doesn't need to breath or sleep so his stamina may be greater than S-Boy'
A suitable significant force can knock him out of his ionic phase. I don't know how durable he is in this form though?
he can be knocked out... but even if he is his body is still permeated with ionic energy and is still indestructible...... the purple energy covering he's had since his "rebirth" is theorised to give him additional durability and strength.... without it he's still tough as hell
Superboy, not the current, but not long time ago, shrugged off Aquaman's best blows in hth combat and then backhanded him like a b.i.t.ch.
Superboy is a high Class 100 Strenght possessor.
His telekinetic aura gives him invulnerability from both energy and physical attacks on an outstanding degree.
He possess superhuman reflexes and reaction time, a heal factor that saved him from nuclear annihilation.
He can fly at great speeds, reaching escape velocity.
His tactile telekinesis in on a high level now, so high that like sayed, he beat the crap out of the Titans like he was fightning the great lake avengers.
He can project heat vision, and now possess superhuman senses.
Wonderman is still a force to reckon with, altough his body can't be destroyed, he can be knocked unconscious.
During JLA/AVENGERS Superman hit him with a strong punch, indeed very strong cause a huge ionic burst was caused from the impact on WM'S body.
Superboy can do the same.
Wonderman's durability isn't in the same repart of SB, his reflexes are tough considerable so he can match him in slugfest, but he can fight at peak condition for an hour before tire out
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