Which of these famous action stars would survive if they were all pitted against each other in a fight to the death?
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i know. i typed jet and bruce back to back, guess i had a brain lapse.
by the way, jet li would beat bruce li, in my opinion.
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wait, didnt bruce fight with jeey kun do? just one style? jet masters a style and moves on to the next. if i am not mistaken, right now he is training in "hung ra", whatever the hell that is. also, jet is older than bruce was, and faster.
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It's style is no style. The goal of JKD is not to master certain techniques, but to let your body express the techniques in its own way. Everyone has his own style, and JKD is a form of bringing it out. Classical techniques did not take into account the reality of street fighting. Jeet Kune Do did. It was pragmatic, reality-based, empirical- not a bunch of stances, postures and mumbo jumbo handed down from antiquity. Bruce utilized all ways but was bound by none. "Efficiency is anything that scores."
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i dont claim to be a martial arts authority, but i have an indonesian friend who has taken tae kwan do and kung fu for the past 25 years. i asked him once who was better, bruce or jet. he said that bruce was stronger, but that jet was faster. also, he told me the same thing you just posted about JKD, and said that it is a style that is very effective, but also has been blown out of proportion over the years since bruce's death. he showed me a tape of him sparring with an older man who practiced jeet kun do. my friend wiped the floor with him. he also told me that style is not important. skill is what mattered most. lets say you have 2 fighters. one is a boxer, one practices kung fu. if, on a scale of 1 to 10, the boxer is a 9 and the one who uses kung fu is a 7, the boxer will win, because he is more skilled.
jet li is older than bruce was, and has far more experience. he has trained since 8 years old, and won a national championship 3 years later for the beijing wushu team. he retaind this title for years.
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I'm afraid age doesn't matter in this particular situation. Jet faster than Bruce Lee? Keep in mind that what you might have seen in Bruce's films in most cases was not his actual speed since he was asked to slow down various different times because his movements could not be captured successfully on camera.
Also, having a fight between Bruce and Jet based on two completely unrelated individuals who once sparred with eachother isn't going to help your arguement. You are talking about the man who created JKD, not someone who simply used it...
As for martial arts championships and the sorts:
1953 (Age 13): Hong Kong - After being beaten up by a street gang, Bruce begins to take Kung-Fu lessons, despite local Hong Kong laws, outlawing streetfights. This is the first, and the last time Bruce looses a fight. He begins to train under Sifu Yip Man, a master of the Wing Chun system of Kung-Fu.
1958 (Age 18): Hong Kong - Bruce wins the Crown Colony Cha-Cha Championship.
1958 (Age 18):- Bruce enters the 1958 Boxing Championships and defeats the reigning three year champion, Gary Elms.
1963 - October 25 (Age 23): Seattle - He starts the first Jun Fan Kung-Fu Institute.
At Garfield High School, Bruce demonstrates the "One-Inch Punch". This is the punch he would later make famous at the 64' Long Beach Internationals and which was developed by him and James DeMile in Seattle. Bruce would hold his arm straight out, and with a shrug of his shoulder, knock a man straight across the ground.
1964 - Summer - Oakland (Age 24): Plans are finalized, and Bruce leaves Seattle to start a second Jun Fan Kung-Fu school in Oakland.
1964 - August 2 (Age 24): Long Beach, Ca - Ed Parker, known as the Father of American Karate (Kenpo), invites Bruce to give a demonstration. Bruce shows off his "one-inch punch," and his two-finger push-ups, where he literally does "two" finger push-ups.
1965 (Age 24): Oakland - Several months after he begins teaching, he is challenged by, Wong Jack Man, a leading Kung-Fu practitioner in the Chinatown Community. They agree: Lee defeats Wong Jack Man.
This is followed by Bruce Lee's discovery of JKD along with other applied teachings.
Why is Vin Diesel up there? Every person on that list would tear that fool limb from tattoo.
And seeing as Bruce Lee was just as tough in real life as the characters he played in his movies, I think it's pretty obvious Bruce would eat em all like lucky charms.
age does matter, in my opinion, because the older you are, its obvious you have more experience.
lets just leave it at this.....if they did fight, it would be one hell of a brawl.
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