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Mr. Sandman
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Abstract Art

I was having this..."discussion" with a friend.

She something about abstract art not being about telling a story, but bridging a gap between art and another subject.

I said that recognition through art should be earned by TALENT, not by knowing someone that's in the art business, or because they made up some underlying meaning behind their crap painting or whatever. I get frustrated because I practice everyday, learning where to place the line just perfectly, how to shade just the right way, how to make my art come alive with a story, with an illustration that actually means something, and some other doucheface submits a BLANK CANVAS to a museum for $20,000!!!! WHAT THE ****!?

There should be a word for it, but it shouldn't be called "art". It degrades the entire meaning of the word.


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I enjoy abstract art confused
I find that everyone interprets it differently, and that's what I like about it.

I prefer traditional art better though yes

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I agree with arachnoid freak. Abstract just seems like it doesn't take effort to me. I can really appreciate someone who can paint something that looks identical to real life, almost like a picture. It seems to me like that takes more talent. But then again, I don't really know jack shit about art.

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I find that everyone interprets it differently, and that's what I like about it.


I took that into account too. I see it as another perspective and excuse for a crappy painter to say his art means more than it is really worth. I sense that most abstract painters are in it for the money.

$20,000 FOR A BLANK CANVAS!?

Seriously, a toddler can make a painting, have someone call it abstract, and earn insane amounts of money.


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i also agree with arachnoidfreak.

but abstract art can also refer to music...


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Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
I took that into account too. I see it as another perspective and excuse for a crappy painter to say his art means more than it is really worth. I sense that most abstract painters are in it for the money.

$20,000 FOR A BLANK CANVAS!?

Seriously, a toddler can make a painting, have someone call it abstract, and earn insane amounts of money.


actually this has already happened...a 4 year old girl is becoming a famous artist all over the country for a few painting she did. People are paying good money for her painting. I think she's from upstate NY. The thing is her painting may not depict anything to her, they might just be like random lines but i've seen some online and they are pretty good...

People forget about famous abstract artists. Think about cubiste painting, Picasso and Matisse were both great artist.


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Picasso is where I draw the line at still calling it art. I can actually see things in his art. Houses, a moon, stars, I actually SEE things. I'm talking about when douches splash some paint on a canvas, or draw a few really crappy random lines, and sell it for shitloads of money.

I hope everyone can see that there's something wrong when someone can sell a black canvas for $20,000. And no, I probably won't stop bringing that up, because it is probably the most absurd thing I have ever heard.


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Art can be anything that is created or expressed by sentient beings. Dance is art, pen to paper is art, heck, one could fine art in the physical prowess a wide reciever shows as he tightropes down a sideline just barely in control of his momentum, yet still in control.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, just because you don't like it, that doesn't mean it is not art.

I hate the pretentiousness of many in the artworld who hide meager talent behind $25.00 words and self serving explanations. But I would never catagorize any form of art as "not worthy of the title art".

I know what I like, but I am not so self indulgent as to say that what I like everyone else should and we should dismiss the rest.


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The majority of abstract art is stupid. Just a bunch of crap randomly thrown together so stupid people can be seen as artists. "Oh, I took a shit, that's art, buy my shit, it's art".


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O.k. I get the feeling here that alot of people are lumping many different forms of art under the category of abstract art .

Also, we all have our opinions on what we like. But if you are going to discuss "what is art" you should have either a more than passing interest in the subject or a fine arts degree. If you have neither, then your definition of "art" is merely an opinion of what you find aesthetically pleasing, and personal biases are moot in such a debate.


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I think abstract art is great, and traditional art bores me.

But paying for abstract art is absurd. It should be free. messed


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There is crappy abstract art... i dont think anyone will argue against that, but there is also some really good abstract art out there.


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Anyone can be an abstract artist.


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Some of it is alright, some of it is complete crap that takes absolutely no talent to create. Like the guy who shit in a jar and sold it for some thousands of dollars. Cubism isn't really abstract art, it's just... weird art. But it does depict real things in an aesthetically pleasing way. Not that there's anything wrong with drawing things that don't actually exist, I just think too many people can get away with drawing a few colorful cubes on a canvas and calling it fine art.


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Uhoh! What is ART?
What is it really?? And in trying to find the answer everything from beautiful paintings of sunsets in impressionistic style, to peculiar metal-monsters I in front of city-halls are called ART.

I enjoy abstract and surreal art, because how I see it, is my vision – how I interpret the picture/painting/sculpture. No one can tell me what I see, or what I fell.

So I suppose art is something that inspires a “feeling”? And not all feelings are positive. “WHAT THE ****!?” is a feeling too smile


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Some abstract art is pretty good. Example: J.Pollock:
http://images.google.ro/images?q=Ja...sa=N&tab=wi

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By the way, is this thread in the right forum confused?

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This is abstract art that should earn an artist recognition, and $25,000. There's actually something here to discuss, and not just anyone can draw this.

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THIS IS NOT. WHAT THE HELL IS THIS!?

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I know what it is, it's ****ing crap.


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