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Yahweh vs Lucifer Morningstar

Yahweh-The entity known as Yahweh was the architect for the current universe. An independent contractor, who was hired to design the framework of the universe after the Big Bang. Yahweh is mostly known as the Judeo-Christian-Islamic God of Earth, sometimes called YHWH, Yahweh, Allah and God.

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Yahweh, if you're speaking of the one from Lucifer comics would beat Lucifer any day of the weak. He can just unmake him, with a thought as he can with all of creation[not just the universe or multiverse, but creation as a whole.].


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You're speaking of Marvel's then?
You're on your own, but I doubt there's really anything supporting either side.


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Never heard of this Marvel Yahweh and theres nothing to suggest hes the actual Yahweh. His role in Marvel suggests thats far from the case. With that in mind Lucifer wins.


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Yahweh wins, there is only 1 Yahweh.


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Yahweh wins, there is only 1 Yahweh.


Kevdude it doesnt work like that. By your logic Mephisto should be more powerful than he is.

Golem is referring to some entity who refers to himself as Yahweh. It hasnt been shown on panel that he is the actual Yahweh and his role in Marvel suggests that is not the case.


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Godheads by Pantheon

Anasazi (Native American) - Manitou, though Tomazooma is shown in Thor I#300 (he didn't exist in real world mythology)
The Innua (Inuit/Eskimo) may or may not be a separate pantheon.
The Pueblo are referenced in Thor Annual#10, and might refer to Awonawilona.
Annunaki (Mesopotamian) - Anu
--Replaced by Enlil {Sumerian},
--by Marduk {Babylonian},
--by Ba'al-Hadad (Assyrian and Phoenician})
Asgardian (Norse) - Odin, Thor
Australian/Aboriginal Gods - mentioned in the OHotMU, but not seen.
Thuremlin per Ronald Byrd, Baiame per Eric J. Moreels.
Daevas (Hindu) - Vishnu (in trinity with Brahma and Shiva)
Vedic/Persian: Atar, Mitra/Mithras
Dievas (Russian) - Svarog
Heliopolitan (Egyptian) - Ammon Ra, Osiris, and Horus
--In Egyptian myth, Osiris was never more than god of the dead.
--Ammon Ra, however, was considered the Egyptian counterpart to Zeus (or Ouranos?).
Incan - Viracocha
Kahunas (Oceanic) - Tame
The Polynesian gods are specifically mentioned and would reference Tangaroa
Kalevalans (Finnish) - Ukko
Kami (Japanese Gods) - Izanagi, Takamimusubi, Amaterasu
--Religously, Izanagi was supplanted by the other two as the divine couple,
but all the myths revere Amaterasu as the true power and her husband as sort of a "figurehead"
Orishas/Loa (African/Voodoo) - Buluku; Ndriananahary, possibly also Nyambe, Lusa
The Yoruba are specifically mentioned, and would reference Olodumare
--My book on African spirits places a lot of importance as Nyambe as ruler, judge and Great Spirit.
--Lusa (Voodoo) is mentioned only as the sun-god who fathered the Great Twins of which Shango and Damballah are two of.
--In the MU, I would surmise that Buluku supersedes them both to keep dissension out of the Voodoo Gods and their relations, the Orishas {African Gods}
Mexican
With the subdivisions
Aztec Tezcatlipoca and perhaps Quetzalcoatl
Mayan Hunab-Ku and Itzamna
Mongolian/Siberian - Ulgen
Olympian (Graeco-Roman) - Zeus
Tuatha da Danaan (Celtic) - Dagda or Nuadhu
Xian (Chinese) - Shou-Hsing, Yu Huang
Judeo-Christian - God/Yahweh/Allah, Jesus Christ, Holy Spirit
--According to a former intern from Marvel, in What If I#32, the character seen in the bottom right panel of the gods and demons blocked from accessing Earth by Korvac was supposed to be Yahweh, though it looks more like Jesus.


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Originally posted by golem370
Godheads by Pantheon

Anasazi (Native American) - Manitou, though Tomazooma is shown in Thor I#300 (he didn't exist in real world mythology)
The Innua (Inuit/Eskimo) may or may not be a separate pantheon.
The Pueblo are referenced in Thor Annual#10, and might refer to Awonawilona.
Annunaki (Mesopotamian) - Anu
--Replaced by Enlil {Sumerian},
--by Marduk {Babylonian},
--by Ba'al-Hadad (Assyrian and Phoenician})
Asgardian (Norse) - Odin, Thor
Australian/Aboriginal Gods - mentioned in the OHotMU, but not seen.
Thuremlin per Ronald Byrd, Baiame per Eric J. Moreels.
Daevas (Hindu) - Vishnu (in trinity with Brahma and Shiva)
Vedic/Persian: Atar, Mitra/Mithras
Dievas (Russian) - Svarog
Heliopolitan (Egyptian) - Ammon Ra, Osiris, and Horus
--In Egyptian myth, Osiris was never more than god of the dead.
--Ammon Ra, however, was considered the Egyptian counterpart to Zeus (or Ouranos?).
Incan - Viracocha
Kahunas (Oceanic) - Tame
The Polynesian gods are specifically mentioned and would reference Tangaroa
Kalevalans (Finnish) - Ukko
Kami (Japanese Gods) - Izanagi, Takamimusubi, Amaterasu
--Religously, Izanagi was supplanted by the other two as the divine couple,
but all the myths revere Amaterasu as the true power and her husband as sort of a "figurehead"
Orishas/Loa (African/Voodoo) - Buluku; Ndriananahary, possibly also Nyambe, Lusa
The Yoruba are specifically mentioned, and would reference Olodumare
--My book on African spirits places a lot of importance as Nyambe as ruler, judge and Great Spirit.
--Lusa (Voodoo) is mentioned only as the sun-god who fathered the Great Twins of which Shango and Damballah are two of.
--In the MU, I would surmise that Buluku supersedes them both to keep dissension out of the Voodoo Gods and their relations, the Orishas {African Gods}
Mexican
With the subdivisions
Aztec Tezcatlipoca and perhaps Quetzalcoatl
Mayan Hunab-Ku and Itzamna
Mongolian/Siberian - Ulgen
Olympian (Graeco-Roman) - Zeus
Tuatha da Danaan (Celtic) - Dagda or Nuadhu
Xian (Chinese) - Shou-Hsing, Yu Huang
Judeo-Christian - God/Yahweh/Allah, Jesus Christ, Holy Spirit
--According to a former intern from Marvel, in What If I#32, the character seen in the bottom right panel of the gods and demons blocked from accessing Earth by Korvac was supposed to be Yahweh, though it looks more like Jesus.


Youve posted from marvunapp in quite a few threads now. What point are you trying to make by posting this?


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If he wasn't the True Yahweh why is he in the God Head council


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Godhead Council laughing out loud Only in Marvels fecked up Universe laughing out loud Thank god for House of M!!!

Yes GS "Why is he in the God Head council". End quote smile


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If he wasn't the True Yahweh why is he in the God Head council


The fact that hes in the godhead council tells you that he is not the true Yahweh Golem.

All of those in the godhead council got defeated by Korvac in what if V1 issue 32. Do you really think thats the true Yahweh?

On top of that Living Tribunal hasnt actually seen TOAA he just takes orders from him. Therefore as aforementioned this is not the true supreme being, He is not uber as shown on panel and as such Lucifer would tear him apart.


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Where do u get Mephisto being more powerful when i said that??? not true. Anyway Yahweh/The Presence is the God of the current DC/Marvel Universe. there is a being named The Infinite which lays beyond The Source Wall and The Source.


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The fact that hes in the godhead council tells you that he is not the true Yahweh Golem.

All of those in the godhead council got defeated by Korvac in what if V1 issue 32. Do you really think thats the true Yahweh?

On top of that Living Tribunal hasnt actually seen TOAA he just takes orders from him. Therefore as aforementioned this is not the true supreme being, He is not uber as shown on panel and as such Lucifer would tear him apart.


Is What If? canon now GS? no but you're right over Yahweh this time. You know the hunt for Yahwehs nmae is the true basis of your original K word. no of course you didn't smile - oh well.


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He is a Deity just Like Zeus Odin and Brahma


Judeo-Christian - God/Yahweh/Allah, Jesus Christ, Holy Spirit
--According to a former intern from Marvel, in What If I#32, the character seen in the bottom right panel of the gods and demons blocked from accessing Earth by Korvac was supposed to be Yahweh, though it looks more like Jesus


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He is a Deity just Like Zeus Odin and Brahma


Judeo-Christian - God/Yahweh/Allah, Jesus Christ, Holy Spirit
--According to a former intern from Marvel, in What If I#32, the character seen in the bottom right panel of the gods and demons blocked from accessing Earth by Korvac was supposed to be Yahweh, though it looks more like Jesus


this is why Marvel fans will burn in hell!!!!!!!


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People infact LT Eternity and Galactus are Above them.


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Made If I believe in Hell


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I would have to agree with Golem here.


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You will all burn in hell for putting other gods above the one true god...... burn you atheists.


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