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Elite Hunter
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Revanchsim????

I was just on wookieepedia and saw these:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Revanchism
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Revanchist
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Revanchist_leader

So are they trying to give Revan atleast part of a back story now? The Revanchist leader's face is not shown we don't know what Revan's real face is. His apprentice Alek looses his hair and he is fairly tall both qualities that Malak has and notice the name similarities in both.

Your thoughts please!!!

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I imagine that the comic series is stringing along fans with well-placed hints at Revan and Malak, but that they won't really touch on either for fear of drawing Drew's wrath. And I hope they don't, because nothing in those comics interests me.

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Revanchism? Whenever I hear that word, I get the image of angry Frenchmen bitching about Alsace-Lorraine float into my head.

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Darth Hord
I was just on wookieepedia and saw these:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Revanchism
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Revanchist
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Revanchist_leader

So are they trying to give Revan atleast part of a back story now? The Revanchist leader's face is not shown we don't know what Revan's real face is. His apprentice Alek looses his hair and he is fairly tall both qualities that Malak has and notice the name similarities in both.

Your thoughts please!!!


Yep, looks like it.
Alek? Wow, there's some creativity....

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I imagine that the comic series is stringing along fans with well-placed hints at Revan and Malak, but that they won't really touch on either for fear of drawing Drew's wrath. And I hope they don't, because nothing in those comics interests me.


The one comic that I bought seemed alright, but was rather uninspired at second viewing.

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Revanchism? Whenever I hear that word, I get the image of angry Frenchmen bitching about Alsace-Lorraine float into my head.


laughing out loud


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are they hinting at kotor 3?

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are they hinting at kotor 3?


no

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yeah its probably too late oh well

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yeah its probably too late oh well


what for them to make it? i doubt it and even if they didn't make a kotor 3 game i wouldnt be surprised if a book was made (probably by drew)

And now let's get back on track it seems to me that alek and his master are looking like more and more to be revan and malak. Mind you they are participating in the war (by scouting so far it seems and trying to find support) before the jedi officially entered and that would only make sense for the 2 of them to be involved prior to the official jedi entry. Also of note if the 2 do turn out to be Revan and Malak then it could mean the 2 of the did change their names(or atleast malak). Alek becomes Malak, and the "Revanchist leader" might change his name to Revan but we still don't know his official name.

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Now that you put the words side by side like that, it does look like a name-change deal. Perhaps they are one and the same, though it baffles me as to why Malak would be referred to as such by the Jedi Order, and why Revan would take Malak as his padawan.

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Now that you put the words side by side like that, it does look like a name-change deal. Perhaps they are one and the same, though it baffles me as to why Malak would be referred to as such by the Jedi Order, and why Revan would take Malak as his padawan.


Yeah that's is one thing that bothers me is if when he became a sith or possibly during the mando. wars he changed his name. By it could be like how yoda and obiwan call anakin as vader in the OT. And it doesn't surprise if revan did malak as his apprentice even though they ar close in age. Maybe by this point Revan is corrupted by the darkside. I believe it was Vrook Lamar who said that the cave on dantooine could have corrupted them early. Or maybe he alek could call the revanchist leader( me referring to him as revan) his master for him teaching him this philosophy or whatever it is. Or Revan is teaching him a new view of the force.

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Yeah that's is one thing that bothers me is if when he became a sith or possibly during the mando. wars he changed his name. By it could be like how yoda and obiwan call anakin as vader in the OT. And it doesn't surprise if revan did malak as his apprentice even though they ar close in age. Maybe by this point Revan is corrupted by the darkside. I believe it was Vrook Lamar who said that the cave on dantooine could have corrupted them early. Or maybe he alek could call the revanchist leader( me referring to him as revan) his master for him teaching him this philosophy or whatever it is. Or Revan is teaching him a new view of the force.


Also, the fact that Revan and Malak were not master and apprentice during their time as Jedi. It is only when they became Sith that they adopted a mentor-apprentice relationship, otherwise they were peers before that. As far as we can tell they are both Jedi and Alek at least, we know hasn't fallen to the darkside.

This isn't them, though if it is, we can say the established story has been altered.


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Also, the fact that Revan and Malak were not master and apprentice during their time as Jedi. It is only when they became Sith that they adopted a mentor-apprentice relationship, otherwise they were peers before that. As far as we can tell they are both Jedi and Alek at least, we know hasn't fallen to the darkside.

This isn't them, though if it is, we can say the established story has been altered.


but technically (and im saying this as if those 2 r rvena and malak) we never found out when they actually fell to the darkside. And vrook lamar said that they could have been corrupted on their time on dantooine while in a cave there. And like i said it is possible that alel could be referring to him as "master" due this revanchism movement not referring him to being a sith master yet. And also not that alek started out with hair and lost while he was captive and he might have even grown taller during that time through the experiments on him and malak is noted as being tall. And when you add that on top of the name similarity of Alek 2 Malak and both had hooded masters that participated in the mandalorian wars and have views that are different then that of conventional jedi.

Also of note is that now carth onasi and saul karath are in getting a backstory and they are 2 major characters in kotor so it wouldnt surprise me if they do it to others...

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what for them to make it? i doubt it and even if they didn't make a kotor 3 game i wouldnt be surprised if a book was made (probably by drew)

And now let's get back on track it seems to me that alek and his master are looking like more and more to be revan and malak. Mind you they are participating in the war (by scouting so far it seems and trying to find support) before the jedi officially entered and that would only make sense for the 2 of them to be involved prior to the official jedi entry. Also of note if the 2 do turn out to be Revan and Malak then it could mean the 2 of the did change their names(or atleast malak). Alek becomes Malak, and the "Revanchist leader" might change his name to Revan but we still don't know his official name.


i meant too late in the history of star wars the kotor comics take place at the battle of ruusian or however you spell it but i havent really read the kotor comics but i know now that i was wrong

but didn't malak already lost his hair when he recruited the exile in kotor 2 and was't revan the main general of the jedi in the mandalrian wars and the hooded jedi was a scout but who knows maybe its one of the trimuvarte but i do know one thing alek looks a hell of a lot like malak alek and he also wheres the signiture red spandex of malak!!eek!

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but didn't malak already lost his hair when he recruited the exile in kotor 2 and was't revan the main general of the jedi in the mandalrian wars and the hooded jedi was a scout but who knows maybe its one of the trimuvarte but i do know one thing alek looks a hell of a lot like malak alek and he also wheres the signiture red spandex of malak!!eek!


He started recruiting actually around this time because the jedi have not officially entered the war yet, right now these two seem to be scouting/trying to find support something which revan and malak did. So it still fits into the kotor continuum since nothing has really conflicted in the timeline of events. And i bet Malak gets the spandex when he becomes the dark lord or during the jedi participation in the mandalorians wars which again, has not occurred yet. If they intend for alek and the revanchist leader to be revan and malak than it would way to obvious.

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true

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Alek also has a similar red get-up to Malak, though of course not the very same outfit.


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As I've said, the only problem with these two being Revan and Malak is that they are two Jedi recognized as master and apprentice. Alek is not corrupted I can tell that because I've followed the comics. Secondly the Revanchist leader is Alek's master or mentor, which is obviously not consistent with Kotor's potrayal of Revan and Malak being peers, age mates and friends.

Personally I find the Revanchist leader somewhat cheezy and hope he isn't Revan.


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But if it isn't Revan and Malak, then there will be a direct contradiction with the KotOR-games. They state that it was Revan who lead the Jedi into the war, not that Revan took the reins from another.


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Alek also has a similar red get-up to Malak, though of course not the very same outfit.


I was thinking the same thing. Plus, their names do sound alike.

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I'm pretty sure it will be Revan and Malak, and it will be explained somehow. It usually is.


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