How long would it take for these teams to take out Mordor and Sauron?
Alright, these following teams are the flagship of Marvel. Can they take out the army of mordor whose numbers are staggering (I believe in the hundred thousands. In the movie, it was only a fraction of his army) and Sauron in his true form? No prep time. The following teams are:
X-Men Roster:
1. Juggernaut
2. Colossus
3. Rogue
4. Storm
5. Jean Grey (NO PF force BUT with TK and TP at full force)
6. Xavier
7. Joseph
8. Iceman
9. Polaris
10. Havok
11. Emma
12. Cyclops
13. Nate Grey
14. Wolverine
15. Psylocke
Avengers Roster:
1. Captain America
2. Thor
3. Hulk
4. Warbird
5. Firestar
6. Vision
7. Scarlett Witch (pre House of M Wanda. Basic improbability manipulation)
8. Sersi
9. Pym
10. Iron Man
Fantastic Four Roster:
1. Reed
2. Johnny
3. Sue
4. Ben
5. Crystal
6. She hulk
Witch kings are involved in this fight and Sauron in his true self and full power. Orcs and Urak Khans are what his army his comprised of. Their number is staggering. Even with all the heavy hitters taking out the first wave of orcs, most will get through. Long range attacks will pick off as many as they can and shielders will hold them off until cavalry arrives. TP's can coordinate their attacks. As much as I love marvel to death, I don't know if they can pull this off IF sauron takes out the heavy hitters first.
Dam as big a fan of LOTR as I am, I have to admit this is overkill.
However, remember they have to contend not only with 200,000 orcs w/ long range projectiles such as arrows and catapults, but thousands of Haradrim and Easterlings on Giant Oliphaunts, hundreds of trolls and half trolls (troll-men), 9 Nazgul including the Witch King, and a Physical form of Sauron (which is nasty).
You want to know a team that could do it, but might struggle, here you go:
1. Wolverine ( w/ his sword from Wolverine Origins)
2. Bishop
3. Havoc
4. Gambit
5. Cyclops
6. Iceman
7. Beast ( w/ some sort of weapon such as axe)
8. Kitty
9. Storm
10. Captain America ( with shield and sword)
11. Spiderman
12. Hawkeye
13. Wasp
14. Goliath
15. Falcon
16. Hank Pym
17. Daredevil
18. Black Panther (Vibranium armor and sword from vampire issue)
19. Nightcrawler (with fencing swords)
20. Colussus
21. Iron Man
22. Human Torch
23. Thing
24. Sue Storm
25. Reed
plus 10,000 soldiers form Gondor as distraction.
I think this team could pull it off with some planning , but it would be a hell of a fight.
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By: Juk
Last edited by nimbus006 on Oct 6th, 2006 at 07:09 PM
Illuvatar is the god of that realm, such as the valar and Maiar, etc.
Then next would be te valar which would be the equivilant of Michael or Lucifer or DC, as in they are direct embodiments of Illuvitar and are limitless as he is.
Below them would be the Maiar, these would be the multi abstracts, Sauron in LOTR WAS drastically weakened from his original self, just as Melkor in the end was but a shadow of his former self.
Maiars are not allowed to interfer with human affaris, it is part of why Sarumen lost most if not all his powers when he became evil.
Sauron at full power is beyond al of these heroes.
The only problem with your argument concerning the original thread starters team is Thor. Thor could arguably take down Sauron himself. Coupled with the likes of Hulk, Jugggernaut, and Iron Man Sauron is more often that not going down.
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By: Juk
Last edited by nimbus006 on Oct 6th, 2006 at 07:06 PM
Just concerned how well they can scale it if Sauron takes out the heavy hitters first. Without the frontline infantries, that just leaves us beamers, TP's, and flyers. Sheilders will be too busy holding the shield together. Here's my running scenario of how it's going to play out.
Archers and ballistas fire off the first volley of projectiles and arrows. Instinctively, shielders and TK's form a unified, fortified forcefield, deflecting thousands of arrows as the first wave of orcs, trolls and everything else rush in, only to be met by frontline infantry (heavy hitters). At the same time, long range attackers (TP's and beamers) pick off as many as they can, helping and lessening the amount of Orcs getting through. Flyers concentrate their fire power on nazgul and wyverns and offer some offensive measure down below, raining down lightning bolts and energy beams. Telepaths form a telepathic gestalt, pooling their TP might into one, coordinating the heroes attacks by reacting on their instinct rather than commands. In addition, TP's can hold off as many orcs that get through by turning their brains into mush. Captain America and Reed can strategize. Wanda can then protect them from magical assaults.
Im telling you now that first team is way too powerful remember that alot of those guys have incredible stamina and durability such as Thor, Juggernaut, Hulk, Thing Colussus, therefore they can keep fighting for as long as they need to while the others rest. I know there are alot in Mordor's army, but half of that field could probably be taken out in a matter of minutes by Optic blast Cylops, Freeze Blasts from Iceman, Telepathic assaults from Xavier, Nate, Jean, and Psylocke, Energy blasts from Gambit and Ironman, lighting chain strikes from Thor and Storm etc... you get the point.
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By: Juk
Last edited by nimbus006 on Oct 6th, 2006 at 07:30 PM
Sauron is still vulnerable to physical attack. A couple shots from Mjolinir and Sauron is out. The Nazgul will be given hell by Torch and Firestar considering they don't like Fire.
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By: Juk
Last edited by nimbus006 on Oct 6th, 2006 at 07:36 PM
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A group of normal (if well trained) humans defeated thousands of orcs. Now how could a group of super humans, some of which have GREAT power, possibly do worse?
It must be said, though, that Saruman and Sauron put Darkseid to shame when it comes to jobbing.
Re: How long would it take for these teams to take out Mordor and Sauron?
Yeah, the first team is extreme overkill. If havok went all out ther would ALOT of decapitated orcs, and current cyc? them together is like 3/4th's of the orcs, and then they have Juggs, colossus, Nate Grey, etc..
What do you mean a group of normal humans? They would of been destroyed if Aragorn had not arrived with help from the dead. Now i know the movie exagerated that a little bit, but it was the key to thier victory.
I agree that Sauron is a huge Jobber, Saruman not so much.
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No Cyke and Havoc could not take out 150,000 orcs by themselves. They just dont have that kind of range. Plus, they can't keep up that type of energy output for so long. However i agree that this team togther is overkill and would probably crush Mordor's army.
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Cyke? he can unleash incredible output As well as havok. Havok can stand amongst hundreds and hundreds of orcs radiating the energy he has soaked up, resulting in the combustion of thousands of orcs (eventually)
Ok, but yea, 150k is a stretch.
but together it hink they could get in the 50k range
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